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Our breeder Leslie (where we got Lollypop) just had a new litter and posted a few video's of the pups for any of you interested in peeking. Just scroll towards the bottom. Pretty cute stuff.
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Basset pups are the cutest darn things ever. Thanks for the video, you made me go "awwwwwww" at work, and my coworkers did too.
 

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Thanks Peter for putting that up. Great to watch!!! I see a list of sires and dams. Are lollipop's (brilliant name BTW) parent's there?
 

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Wow! Such fun. Makes me want to call them and buy one right now. :)
 

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The thing that bothers me is they brag about their dogs having championship lineage but they don't bother to show at all. Do they do any health testing. Plus com on ... a PAYPAL button? WOW... just WOW.
 

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Lollypop's mother is Lilly and her father is Wilson. I think they are listed on one of the lineage charts, (which are ALL listed if one bothers to look). And yes, Leslie is a very reputable breeder who cares very much about her hounds and her litters. She has all her dogs and puppies vaccinated with all the proper shots and she DOCUMENTS all of it for the purchaser. A large reason we chose her to buy Lollypop from. As for Paypal? It's 2010, get with the program.
 

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We are another waiting list. We want another pup from Lilly, Lollypop's mother, so Lollypop can have a half-sibling! Probably a male next time. All these pups are spoken for, and she typically has a 6 month to a year waiting list. I think she breeds between 4 to 5 litters a year depending on if the pregnancies take. We still have not ruled out adopting though.
 

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My point here is that I don't know of any single reputable breeder who breeds 1- that many litters a year 2- has a paypal button on their website. If she is only producing pets and is not bothering to compete in any sort of venue to prove the breed worthyness of any of her dogs then she is not a reputable breeder. Just because she gives them the shots they are required to have and sends them with papers does not make her reputable.
 

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I recognize, as will some others on this forum, many of the dogs in the pedigrees. She is buying dogs from decent backgrounds so it is ashame she doesn't want to show some of what she breeds. She has gotten puppies/dogs from swedish lines which usually produce large boned puppies. I have made statements of wishing we could see more of that bone in our lines in the US. I think some of those breeders behind some of her dogs would be surprised and disheartened to find any of their breeding dogs went to breeders like her. They didn't keep track of /or require their name to stay on them as co-owners . I know it isn't possible to keep track of absolutely everything but there are some very well known dogs in the pedigrees,National Speciality winners,in fact. The thing is whatever is in the fourth generation on back is not going to have much meaning in her breedings and the dogs in the first and second generation are not superb quality, for the most part, even if they have finished their championship title. Selling puppies on line would probably be the fastest way of doing it but my puppies don't go to just anyone who wants to buy one or has the money in their hands. Having 4-5 litters a year is a money eating operation if you don't get rid of those puppies quick.Having one litter a year is a money eating operation but you can spend more time with what you have instead of trying to get them out the door quickly. The puppies will be more sound emotionally ,will have spend the needed time with the dam and siblings which affects them in many other ways. For me, and I'm not saying I think she is reputable the way we consider reputable breeders to be ,but ,she could be doing worse.
 

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I guess our ideas of "reputable" differ. Why would a breeder have to show dogs to be considered "reputable?" If I bought 2 items of the EXACT make and model, one from Walmart and the other say from Hammacher -Schlemmer, do the items differ in value? Paypal is now ubiquitous and is considered by most to be a normal way of monetary exchange. Should I pay for a basset hound with freshly minted and engraved gold ingots? This breeder is more in the hobby kennel camp. Yes, they do exist. And I think having between 3 to 4 litters a year when you own 8 hounds is not over the top, nor do I think it rules her out as being "reputable". I do know she has a good "reputation" among regular folks like me who love the breed as a pet. I'm assuming of course that "reputable" and "reputation" have similar meanings and connotations. Whether others who have adopted from her have shown their hounds I don't know and couldn't care less. I do know that the breeder takes pride in some of the champion show dog lineage they are descendant from. To wit, her lineage charts on her site. Whether she shows her hounds, I don't know, and couldn't care less. Our hound is a very healthy, happy, smart and beautiful Basset. That is all the "reputable" I need and, I suspect, most other basset owners need too. If I sound prickly I am. My only objective was to simply post video's of cute puppies. To me, all basset puppies are cute. I am an equal opportunity hound lover.
 

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Your videos are cute and seeing pups play together just shows how important socialisation and playing with siblings is and why they should stay together for 8-10 weeks rather than the 6 wks or less that some people on hee have had their pups!

My Basset breeder friends would never ever sell any puppies to people they had not carefully vetted and there's no way they would be breeding so many litters... and why does your breeder not seem to keep track of the puppies?

Edit: Why is the adult in the second video from the top, covered up in an old green t-shirt?
 

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Nothing wrong with that (posting the video) the problem is the website that comes up that makes many of us "prickly" and unfortunately for the unsuspecting we are not quiet about a breed so dear to us as well. Many people like the person you admire are breeding primairly for money. We ask, why does she need to breed so many litters a year when there are already so many unwanted bassets in rescues. I'm planning on breeding my bitch this spring and it will take me every second I have from now until then to get everything in order(testing)so that I can breed her. Who knows what her dogs could be passing on, it only takes one problem to ruin your reputation.Glaucoma in a litter may take a few years to show up in those puppies,what then? Harming the breed with no knowledge of what you are doing may not show up for a while but it will show up. Sorry to come off so strong but there is a right way and a wrong way to breed dogs . Showing is just something that validates quality breeding stock.
 

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Exactly what I am saying... you may love this breeder and I'm sorry for pointing out some red flags but I see nothing about any health testing that they are doing and all they are doing is churning out pet litter after pet litter with nothing at heart but money from unsuspecting people like you. I'm glad you haven't had any problems with your girl but that doesn't mean anything yet... she's still very young and it takes many years for serious health issues to develop. I know if I were one of the dogs who's show career she was trying to capitalize on off of her "championship lines" I'd be furious. Don't bother advertising it if you are not willing to spend the money proving they are worthy of breeding in many of our books... she hasn't earned a single title whether it be in field work, scenting, conformation, or even obedience... that means she doesn't care to be improving the breed. Therefore she is not a reputable breeder. I don't know who she has a reputatation with but I can tell you just by looking at her site I see many red flags. Yes the videos are cute and all but I think it should be pointed out that there is a right way and a wrong way to be breeding.
 

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Sophie I think I can guess why the green shirt is on the one dog. She doesn't want the puppies feeding off of her. Either she is the dam of the litter or another bitch with milk. Possibly because the puppies in the video are old enough to be weaned off her. I've done this if the bitch develops an infection in the mammary glands .
 

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Sophie B. She keeps in close contact with many of her puppies. We have even visited on our way to VT to see Lollypop's mother. When we got Lollypop, we were the interviewed ones, not the other way around. She will not sell to just anyone, and she will not allow anyone to take a pup away until after 8 weeks. Perhaps she is not up to snuff in the breeder show-dog world by comparison, but as someone suggested earlier, I guess we could have done worse.

I understand what everyone else is saying and I guess I shouldn't have taken offense, but I'll admit feeling like my hound was slighted vicariously by the breeder critique even though it was probably in no way meant that way.

Cheers and happy Howlidays everyone!
 

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The tee shirt is commonly used for the female's comfort when the pups are not nursing - keeps the teats from swinging around, dragging, and otherwise causing distress to Mom. Dogs weren't meant to be this short and have such large mammary glands - they need a little help sometimes. Think of it as a doggie bra ;).
 
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