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Dear guys,

I just bought her two days ago (2month old) girl.

She's been doing fine, until this afternoon, she's stopped going to washroom and not wanted to take food nor drink all of a sudden !!! (she had breakfast this morning...was doing fine during the morning though)

PLEASE HELP....
 

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Call your veterinarian right away as puppies can't go long without food, water and urinating.
No one here is qualified to diagnose or recommend treatment so whenever you urgently need advise, pick up the phone and call your vet.

Hope your pup is ok. Keep us posted.

[ August 11, 2004, 07:43 AM: Message edited by: Barbara Winters ]
 

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Thx for your answer.

She's doing fine now, but missed the lunch and the post-lunch washroom. She had dinner and water.

Is it normal to miss a lunch???

She's doing just like normal tonight...running around the room...biting a lot on the "RABBIT" toy...~__~, as well as my hands

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(food = 3 times a day (washroom prior 3 hrs)
food = 2 spoon of REGAL puppy food
water + bone powerder)

Is it necessary to have bone powerder for every single day inside the water? (SHe's 8 weeks old)

Is 2 spoon of REGAL puppy food too much for a two month old puppy?

She's living in a cage most of the night, until we're back from work and will bring her out to walk around the living room for 20 minutes.

At night, we'll turn off the air con for her, and she'll live in the cage inside the living room with windows open...
(TEMPERATURE is around 28C, is this ok for a 8 week puppy?? or too cold? we have a cloth setup
for her inside the cage as a bed)

Sorry for all this questions....but she's our first doggy ~_~...

thx a lot
 

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Um, sorry if this sound stupid, but how much is a "spoon"? I can convert between US, Canadian, and UK cups, quarts, ounces, etc. I can't kind anything to convert between US measurements and Chinese (Hong Kong) measurements.

If it's close to a US cup, I would think it's too much food at one time. Try cutting the morning meal in half and give her the other half at lunch.
 

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Hi there,

No, that was not a stupid question. In fact I was stupid enough to just call it big spoon. I knew sooner or later somebody will ask about the spoon ^__^...I guess, I'll take a photo of the whole set of food later tonight

Anyway, she's fine now and here's a few pics taken last night (how do you guys post pix btw, I can only upload it to this following url, would be nice if u guys have any good place to upload pix

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cheers,
George
 

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"Is it necessary to have bone powerder for every single day inside the water? (SHe's 8 weeks old)"


While is was fashionable a while ago to add calcium, (i.e. bone meal) to supplement large breed and big boned dogs development recent studies have concluded it is a very very bad idea.
Too much calcium or an inbalance in the calcium/phosphate ratio can and routinely cause severe bone growth abnormalities.

see: Skeletal Diseases of the Growing Dog:
Nutritional Influences and the Role of Diet

multifactorial. In the dog, OCD risk factors are associated with age, gender, breed, rapid growth, and nutrient (primarily calcium) excesses.(1,11-14)
OVERNUTRITION
Excess calcium intake may also cause damage to the growing skeleton. When the calcium content of the diet is increased, and all other nutrients are provided in normal amounts, the incidence of osteochondrosis and other skeletal abnormalities, such as retained cartilage core, radius curvus syndrome and stunted growth, increases.4 Skeletal problems have been induced by feeding as little as three times the recommended intake of calcium.5 For example, a 35 kg Great Dane puppy, eating 2700 kcal/day of a complete and balanced diet (1.2g calcium/ 400kcal) gets about 8g calcium per day. The maximum recommended calcium intake (AAFCO)for this pup is 7.1g/1000kcal, equivalent to 19.1g. So 27g (about 5 teaspoonsful) of powdered calcium carbonate (containing 4.0g calcium/10g) added to the diet could produce a dangerous excess of dietary calcium.
Module 5.4 Dietary Supplements

To avoid the potentially serious problems associated with over-supply of calcium, owners and breeders should be discouraged from supplementing their pets' diets with additional calcium, phosphorus or vitamin D. Instead they should be encouraged to feed a complete and balanced pet food which is appropriate for their pet's breed, age and life style.
 

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Hi there,

I'm starting to worry again. She didn't take dinner tonight...but she was great during lunch as well as breakfast.

Am I over-feeding her? Here's a pic on her food:

FOOD PIC

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Here's the hour we're feeding:
7:00 a.m. (breakfast)
2:00 p.m. (lunch)
7:00 p.m. (dinner)
about 5 hours apart for food.

Is that too close?
What do u guys think of the food? Was that too much, she completely ignored the dinner..likes she ignores the lunch yesterday

The waste she had was used to be "STRIP" type, but since yesterday night, the waste was a bit non-strip...but most of the waste are still in strip type.

We only gave her about 30 minutes of walking around the house at night...since we have to work and only my mom stays home with her,
she sleeps more than 15 hours a day...

any help would be great
she doesn't bark a lot (except for breakfast)
and she doesn't bark at anybody who comes through our doors (even those guys from pizza hut) ^__^ ... :confused:

Last question: I think she got fever as her nose sometimes have water...but just sometimes...not all the time though
the room temperature is around 28C...not sure if this is too cold for her during the night...??

Sorry for all those questions...but any comments would be great

thx
George

[ August 12, 2004, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: George Hong Kong ]
 

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Does she have diarrhea? Is her waste runny and liquid?

If it is, she really needs to go to a veterinary. And she needs to go very quickly. :(
 
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Hi, George!
Everyone is right, you need to check in with her vet. Also, a couple of books on puppy and basset hound rearing would be really helpful. They've saved our sorry butts more than once.
A good relationship with a competent and capable vet is priceless.
 

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Won't have time to go until tm night, which is around 20 hours from now...don't know if she could make it or not :(

I'll take her to see a vet right away tm after work...

She drinks water at the moment...but have a runny nose...isn't very bad...but she's kind of tired... :(
 

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Has she been vaccinated for distemper? Is she showing any other symptoms?

So far, you say her poop is runny and she has a runny nose. ? Is there anything else?

I'm not a veterinarian and I really have no idea what I'm talking about. :(
 

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George, good luck at the vet. The pictures of the amount of food look right. If you have cut the breakfast down to half and the other half at lunch, you may be feeding too much at supper, too. Is this the same food she was eating when you got her?

Distemper has more signs than diarreah and not eating. Canine Distemper

Symptoms

Macrophages (cells that ingest foreign disease-carrying organisms, like viruses and bacteria) carry the inhaled virus to nearby lymph nodes where it begins replicating (reproducing). It spreads rapidly through the lymphatic tissue and infects all the lymphoid organs within 2 to 5 days. By days six to nine, the virus spreads to the blood (viremia). It then spreads to the surface epithelium (cell lining) of the respiratory, gastrointestinal, urogenital, and central nervous systems, where it begins doing the damage that causes the symptoms.

Early symptoms include fever, loss of appetite, and mild eye inflammation that may only last a day or two. Symptoms become more serious and noticeable as the disease progresses.

The initial symptom is fever (103ºF to 106ºF), which usually peaks 3 to 6 days after infection. The fever often goes unnoticed and may peak again a few days later. Dogs may experience eye and nose discharge, depression, and anorexia. After the fever, symptoms vary considerably, depending on the strain of the virus and the dog’s immunity.

Many dogs experience gastrointestinal and respiratory symptoms, such as:

Conjunctivitis (discharge from the eye)
Diarrhea
Fever (usually present but unnoticed)
Pneumonia (cough, labored breathing)
Rhinitis (runny nose)
Vomiting  
Were you aware that a dogs nose is wet because he/she licks it? Your dog's healthy nose
Many people throughout history have believed that if a dogs nose is dry, then the pet is sick. They thought that the main sign of a healthy dog is a good wet, sloppy nose. This simply is not true. A wet nose simply means that the air is plenty humid. Just like anything else, when its humid outside, your dogs nose gets wet. If the weather is overly dry, so will be your dogs nose.


Another misconception is that you can tell how your dog is feeling by touching its nose. If your dogs nose is hot, then it might have a fever. But if its cool, its feeling just fine. But this is not accurate. Again, a dogs nose temperature changes based on the environment. If its warm where your dog is, your dogs nose will be warm. If its cold, your dogs nose will be colder.
Puppies have to have lots of naps, just like babies. Once you get her to the vet to make sure there's not a health problem, RELAX. She looks like she's at a good weight.
 

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I'm thinking of changing food for her.
Anyone got any good comments about dog food for 8 weeks baby.

The first few days, she likes the food a lot. She still very excited about the food cup, but when she smelled the food, she turned her head away.

Any food for puppy u guys would recommend?

BTW, can I use those doggy shampoo to clean her...or she's too young to have bath yet?

How often should we bath her? We're only clean her once a day by warm wet cloth and dry her right away.

thx
George

[ August 13, 2004, 01:54 AM: Message edited by: George Hong Kong ]
 

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Dear guys,

She became fine again tonight. So we didn't take her to the vet. He started to eat lunch again...but not very happily...so we think she hated the food. After work, I bought "HILLS" puppy food. I first gave her a cup of "REGALS" puppy food to see how she's behaved. She turned her head away. So I quickly through away the "REGALS" puppy food and fill in the "HILLS" puppy food into the same cup. She seems to like it a lot. Her waste is also fine now...just like the first day. We also given her a little bath tonight.

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Good news! :)

Make sure to get her into a vet as quickly as possible. Puppies are really vulnerable to distemper and, in the US, parvo (I don't know if you all in Hong Kong have parvo!).

The vet can also make sure she doesn't have worms --- worms will make a big dog sick but they can make a baby dog REALLY sick and sometimes kill them. :)
 

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Hi George! I've been following this thread and have a question - has your pup ever been to a vet? Did you get any health information from the breeder? An appointment with a vet is essential for every puppy after you aquire it, most people don't wait until there is something wrong. I urge you to get this baby to the vet for an evaluation ASAP. You will have an evaluation of her health, and will also have established a relationship with a vet in case of emergency. Please take her and let us know the results!
 
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