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I used to post and enjoy reading this forum and then we lost our Basset, Annie to lung cancer and stopped...too hard to read about Bassets.

Now we have a new Basset Hound, Tootsie who is now five months old and adorable!

Yesterday she had to have surgery for Ulnar Osteotomy on her front left leg and wondering if anyone else has had to go through this with their Basset?

If so, would love to hear about your experience and what the healing and recovery period was like. We had an awful night last night and got very little sleep. Seems like she can't get comfortable and whining the whole time even though we do have pain pills for her. We do have a call into the vet and waiting to hear back.

Would really appreciate any feedback you might have and glad to be back on the forums once again!!! Thanks so much!!!!

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Sorry to hear about Annie developing cancer. I do remember your name. Welcome back. Might be an idea to put your question in the health section.
 

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My people were very sad. They lost BOTH their bassets in the month of January... Both to cancer. Lulu was sick for 8 months and the poor girl wasted away to nothing. She went to the bridge on January 8th (Elvis' Birthday). Right about the time that she was getting really bad off, Austin started limping. Two weeks after Lulu passed, Austie went to three legs. They found out he had cancer in his hip. The next week something ruptured and he cried and cried all night. My humans hadda send him to the bridge on January 30th. They were heartbroken but I cam into their lives just 19 days later--I am the fourth cousin of Lulu and I came to help heal their hearts. Lulu looked down from the bridge and made sure that they found me--because I'm a little hellion and they remember lulu and austin EVERY DAY because of it--she made sure they'd remember how sweet and well behaved the were b/c i'm so bad!! Bwaaaahahahaha! I love them and they love me and though it was a short bassetless period, compared to some, it's helped them to finish their grieving process and move along. they miss lulu and austin terribly but only remember the stuff that makes them smile now!

now, where did I hide mama's underwear... ahhh yes... back to the crate... bye!
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oops
i thought you meant healing period from losing a basset.
didnt mean to be depressing and officially off topic.
 

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Hi there, My bassett pup had to have both of his front legs done, he had his first one done at the end of may beginning of june time. I know this is a pretty old thread but if you would like to chat about it I would be more than happy.
 

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Just took my 6 month old in today for surgery on both front legs....damaged growth plate at base of ulna, therefore removing a section of that bone to allow the radius to grow normally, and hopefully pull the ulna back into elbow joint. Is this the same procedure your pup had? If so, how was recovery? I was told he would be in pain and to take it easy for about 4 days. After that, however, to get him moving so the muscles would aid in the healing of the elbow.
 

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IMHO this surgery is often not need and recommend way to often on vets not well versed in the breed The growth plate a a basset and other dwarf breed are not normal to begin with that is why the legs remain short. and propper base comformation requires some degree of elbow incongruity to begin with. Any time surgery is recommend on a basset front that is not an adult I highly recommend a second and even third opinion by orthopedeac specialist that are well verse in basset and other dwarf breeds.

The following is from the Basset Hound Faq by Judy Trenck
In diagnosing the cause of a Basset's lameness, a radiograph of the forelimbs may indicate a condition called elbow incongruity. (Elbow incongruity is a poor fit between the 3 bones which comprise the elbow joint.) Studies to date indicate that elbow incongruity is normal in the Basset and is not the cause of the lameness. It is also suspected that many of the previously mentioned unnecessary (panosteitis) surgeries have been performed on Basset Pups just because radiographs that were taken showed elbow incongruity. A study on forelimb lameness in the Basset is currently underway at the School of Veterinary Medicine, University of Pennsylvania. As previously mentioned they have determined that elbow incongruity occurs in the Basset but suspect that incongruity rarely causes the lameness. During the course of the study, conservative therapy will be recommended for all cases in which panosteitis appears to be the cause of the lameness. In cases with severe growth deformities or elbow pain associated with elbow incongruity, surgery may be recommended. If your Basset develops lameness and is diagnosed with an "elbow problem", discuss with your veterinarian the possibility of panosteitis.


Ununited anconeal process

The ossification center at the anconeal process normally fuses by 5 months of age, and so the presence of a lucent line on radiographs confirms the diagnosis in dogs past this age. The exceptions are the St. Bernard and basset hound, in which the anconeal process may fuse as late as 7 to 8 mo (2).

Some Joint Incongruity is considered normal in Non-arthritic elbows joints, increasing with increasing body weight, (Janach et al 2006)
 

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My pup had a different problem with his front legs. There was a large amount of incongruence in the ulna joint in both of his front legs, basically the bone was cut a pin inserted and the bone reattached then left to heal and fuse. Luckily I got several opinions and was referred to a specialist with a huge amount of experience in the breed. You could actually hear the joint click and he limped very badly.

As the surgery your pup has had is different to mine I can't really comment on your pups recovery time, however I will share my puppies experiences.

After the first op I will not lie he was in alot of pain, that being said it didn't pit him off his food. I believe the bandage was on for 3 days and once that was off he was much, much happier, for the first couple of days he really put very little weight on it, but by the end of the week he was using it more. His next op was 2 weeks after the first and by this time both I and the surgeon were happy with his progress and ready to proceed.

After his second op he didn't seem in quite so much pain, however getting him out for the toilet etc proved challenging as he didn't have much confidence in his new bionic leg. Once again one the bandage was off he was abit better. For the first few days he was really trying to find his feet again. After say 4 days he could walk unaided but needed some help to get up. After about a week from surgery I was told to start introducing short lead walks to help build up his strength and confidence (believe me it's confidence more than anything you and your pup need to work on). 4 weeks from his second op he was re-xrayed to check his progress, the surgeon was over the moon with his progress as was I. it's now been 6 weeks since his final op and there is no sign what so ever of any limp at all! We are still working on his stamina but tbh I you were to see him out you would not guess he has had an op at all.

My advice would be to make sure your surgeon knows about the breed and don't be scared to ask hundreds of testing questions lol. If your not sure get another opinion. I can't emphasise how much research and google time I took checking out my surgeon. And the final but biggest thing is This operation needs an amount of luck, if your pup doesn't heal well he could end up having more ops or permanently lame. I had 100% faith in my Pups surgeon and knew all of my options before proceeding.

If there are any more questions please ask away :)
 

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10 month old with elbow incongruety.

My 10 month old basset had surgery to correct his elbow incongruence yesterday. Our vet, an orthopedic specialist that we were seeing for another injury, became concerned about the problem two months ago but we decided to watch him for a little while. Two weeks ago we had xrays taken of his elbows and it showed incongruence in both, although one was considerably more severe both externally and internally with fragmentation already in the joint. The surgery he had yesterday included cleaning out the joint, lengthening the ulna and inserting a pin for temporary stabilization.

Pricey, does this sound similar to the surgery on your pup? If so, did they remove the pin after a few weeks and how long did full recovery take? Thatcher is a very active hound and I'm a little nervous about keeping him from going crazy over the next couple of months.

I'd like any advice you have on the situation, as I don't know anyone who has had this procedure done in any dog. I'm still trying to decide on whether or not to do the second surgery on the other leg, which is in better shape. My vet had suggested not doing it until 6 or 8 weeks after this procedure. It worries me to consider three or more months of recovery for my pup!
 

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Hi Thatch, yes that op is virtually exactly the same as the 2 carried out on my pup except there was luckily no fragmentation in his joint probably because he started showing symptoms earlier and had his first op when he was almost 7 months. My surgeon advised leaving the pins in unless they became a problem, he left a little jutting out so they were easier to remove, but as I said in my earlier post his legs are now better than the have ever been, though I do acknowledge the amount of luck required with such an operation.

I would say the full recovery time (and when I say this I mean up to running around and walking without a limp around 2-3 months, but as I said mine had both of his legs done in that time. He only had a 2 week gap between surgerys as the orthopedic surgeon advised us to overlap the recovery time. I will admit that at first we were not keen on this idea however after 1 tough week I dont regret it and I am glad to of gotten it out of the way. He now goes back at 4 week intervals to be x-rayed to check his healing.

As for keeping him from going crazy, my little one was very active before his first op, however keeping him undercontrol has been relatively easy to be honest, he was unable to do very much the first couple of days after as he was still bandaged and even once that was off it was almost like he was teaching himself to walk again. Once he was allowed out it was strictly lead walks and trying to rebuild his confidence and stamina and only doing as much as they feel comfortable.

I hope this was helpfull, if you have anymore questions I am more than happy to help as I know how hard it is finding information from people who's dogs have been through it.
 

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That was very helpful and I am glad to hear it worked well for your pup!

I picked Thatcher up from the vet today and he was happy to go home! He doesn't seem to be in too much pain but he isn't really sure what to do with his leg. Also, the e-collar has been getting in his way a lot thus making walking even more difficult. I might ask my vet about doing the second surgery earlier, 4-5 months of recovery might be unbearable, if we decide to do it at all.

How long do will they be taking monthly xrays for? I am scheduled to go back in one week for a dressing change and in four weeks for an xray, but I am not sure of what to expect beyond that.
 

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Well he is due his second check up xray in a couple of weeks, I presume he will only have another 2 or 3 after that.

By collar do you mean one of those lampshade things? They gave us one of the lampshade things but it wasnt really needed as Hector (my pup) really didnt bother with the dressing or the stitches.

As for pain Hector is a bit of a baby, the surgeon and myself were wondering if he was milking it slightly, this was confirmed when minutes after waking from the op he was hopping in and out of the empty kennels at the vets eating any food that the other dogs had left.
 

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He has the big cone-type collar. I am going to look into the inflatable type, he can't even have the collar off to go outside because he immediately goes for the bandages. I live over an hour away from out vet too, so going to get a dressing change early is something I'd like to avoid! Other than trying to bite his leg when the collar off Thatch has been doing well. I put his kennel between my living room and kitchen so he could see what was going on and he didn't seem to mind staying in there most of the day.
 

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Thatch is doing really well so far (maybe a little too well)! He is almost two weeks out from surgery and as active as every, at least he wants to be. The day after surgery he was already trying to use the leg and limps a little less each day.

I'm still struggling with keeping him under control. He wants to run around and play all of the time but the vet said he needs to rest 'quietly' which is almost impossible for a 10 month old puppy.

He is gong to have xrays done a month from now to see how the joint and ulna are healing. I'm leaning against having the other leg done now that i know how difficult he is to keep quiet. Although, I don't regret getting the worse leg done.
 

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Just wondering, would a leg brace work to straighten his leg instead of going thru surgery? I know there is a post around here somewhere on dog leg braces.
 

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would a leg brace work to straighten his leg
No not if the problem is because the ulna is too short The best a brace can do is provide additional suport for overly lax tendons and ligaments. ie it may help with knucling over but not streightening obviously bent leg Unless the dog is young. Bracing can help then when the bones are still growing.
 

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I am glad to hear that Thatch is on the mend. My little Hector is having his second check up xray as I type this, im hoping all is well.
 
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