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Hello all.

Things are not so great here with me, my boyfriend, and Penny. When we first got her, she just had some hyperactivity problems (that's still a bit of a problem, but she seems to have calmed down a little). Then, a couple days in, she'd get jealous anytime my boyfriend showed me any affection and try to dominate me. After she figured out I'm the owner too, she stopped.

Now, we're having problems with her wanting attention all the time. She whines and pees any time anyone ignores her. Yesterday, she started going in the house and stopped letting us know when she needed to go outside.

She also still won't eat. Hard food, that is. Loves wet food. We do not want her on wet food but she absolutely will not eat the dry food. I've even tried mixing in a little wet food and she spits out the hard food bits or eats around them. I'm starting to notice a little weight loss and its bothering me. I really want her to just eat the dry food, especially now since she's decided going to the bathroom in the house is what she's gonna do. Cleaning up dry poo would be WAY easier.


We're trying to set up an appointment to get her shots and get her spayed, but other than that, we don't have much money for a behaviorist visit or training or anything like that. I'm thinking she might be homesick for her previous owner, but I have no clue. I'm at the end of my rope and so is my boyfriend. We're very frustrated and don't know what to do. :(
 

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I am sure someone will come along with some good advice. Best I can offer is to hang in there. She will need some time to adjust to you guys and you to her. I know it was mentioned before that she will not starve herself-maybe remove ALL wet food from her food for awhile and only offer the dry for a few days? Good luck and I have faith in ya to work out these problems!
 

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know it was mentioned before that she will not starve herself-maybe remove ALL wet food from her food for awhile and only offer the dry for a few days?
exactly as long as wet food is provide she has no incentive to eat dry. As far as loosing weight it is an exceedingly rare basset that could not stand to lose a few lbs. and even if she is under weight this is far better than being even an ounce over weight.

Also keep in mind the one caveate about a dog not starving itself it is that the dog is heathy. The are a few health issues that come into play on a dog refusing to eat dry food most if not all related to oral pain. Peridontial disease, oral abcess, cracked. broken or caviety in a tooth could all lead to increased mouth pain by eating dry vs wet food and need to be ruled out as well.
 

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Then, a couple days in, she'd get jealous anytime my boyfriend showed me any affection and try to dominate me.
Jelouse Maybe but it is a streach but there is no way of knowing motivation, Dominace however not at all given your other statement

Now, we're having problems with her wanting attention all the time
you are likely to explained the behavior above. That is butting inbetween you and the boyfreind get her attention, It is simply an attention seeking behavior like others. The fastest way to stop this behavior is tostop rewarding it wich mean any time the dog but in both of you simply walk away and leave the dog alone.

While I have just advocaated the most often recommend and least successful method of dealing with attention seeking behavior it will work in this limit setting but it will not work for ending all attention seeking behavior because it does not address the dog underlying need.

Something you need to really think about

1. the dog has gone through a traumatic emotional experince of being rehomed it is natural going to need more emotional support than normal ?

2. if you feel that ginving the dog the emotion suport it need is a burdan are you ready for a dog?

3. Ignoring attnetion seeking behavior do not work becuase
1, it does not change the dogs underlying need
2. a phenonenom know as extinct burst which occurs when try to end behavior by ignoring it . Think of it this way yo get in an elivator and push the buttton for the foor and nothing happens. Do you get out and take the stairs? know you push the button over and over again harder, softer, longer. maybe try a different button before giving up. During an extinction burt the behavior gets worse much worse.

4. the reason a dog use a particular behavior to get attention is because it has learn from experience it is a behavior you can't ignore in the first place.

5. because you have not taught a more appropriate behavior even if successful all that happens is the dog will come up with a even more annoying behavior to get your attention.


the only thing truly succussfull in dealing with attention seeking behaviors are

1. being proactive and giving the dog the attention it needs before it has to ask

2. whenb it does ask give that attention immeadiately

3. teach a more appropriate and less obnoxios behavior for attention and reward it with attent for using it.

see Harmoney Programme
The Cure For Attention Seeking Behaviour Disorders


It is so simple – following the “crying baby” model for filling the need as soon as it arises, ASBDs can be entirely avoided as well as cured by giving focussed attention immediately and as soon as the request has been received.

This does not mean one has to put one’s entire life on hold or “run rings around the creature” – it is literally a simple little flash of attention at the right time and when first asked for it; the classic “a stitch in time saves nine” principle.

Rather than “rewarding” attention seeking behaviour, it never gets to escalate, the creature’s energy system remains balanced and the disturbed behaviours never need take place at all.

As the babies who are fed when they are hungry cry markedly less or not at all, creatures who receive attention energy (or love or recognition energy) when they ask for it, their attention seeking behaviours become markedly less frequent, markedly less dramatic and may cease altogether once the system has been in operation for a while and the creature has understood that not only can it get what it needs just the for the asking, but also it’s energy system has become more robust, more healthy, more resilient and won’t collapse when there is a time when attention is in short supply.
Position Statement on theUse of Dominance Theory inBehavior Modification of Animals
American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior

Why Won't Dominance Die?
Many leading animal behaviourists are concerned that the “dominance” model of pet dog behaviour continues to survive, despite the accumulating evidence that it is at best unhelpful and at worst highly detrimental

...We live in a pack with our pet dogs and they either dominate us or we dominate them. To be at the top of the pack with total dominance would make you the “alpha”, with all the esteem that entails, therefore dogs will strive for dominance unless you beat them to it. It’s a neat explanation.
Except that none of it actually bears scientific scrutiny. Prof Richard Dawkins described self replicating ideas as “memes”(1) that live in our minds and pass from one to another through no reason other than their popularity, or catchiness. Some are harmless, like that annoying song you keep humming long after you’ve decided you hate it, but others can be positively harmful, like the idea that combined MMR jabs cause autism, which continues to prevent many children benefiting from the protection they provide.
The “pack” and “dominance” theory of domestic dogs is a harmful meme. It prevents many owners understanding their dogs, causes untold misery for both and is perpetuated by well-meaning but uninformed dog trainers around the world. It is proving extremely resistant to extinction.
 

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2. if you feel that ginving the dog the emotion suport it need is a burdan are you ready for a dog?
We don't feel that it is a burden; we're just frustrated. I'm determined to keep her, but I feel like I'm failing at being an owner so far.

I do think she is feeling homesick for her previous owner though. Right now we're thinking that we should re-potty train her. We also need to find her a good crate ASAP.
 

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Have you checked out her teeth and gums. Maybe she has a problem with her mouth. The visit to the vet should help you know for sure.
 

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Dog is sick

Good morning!

Our beautiful 7 year old Oliver is really sick. He has been back to the vet 3 times in the last 2 months. The vet is finally doing blood work on him and we'll know that results on Monday. His stool has been bloody and he is going to the bathroom all over the house. Recently he has lost all of his energy and 10lbs in a month. The vet put him on a strict diet which he hates. He assummed it was gastritis and sent us on our way. We're so worried because we just lost our Lab to old age a week ago. His shots are all up to date but he has all of the signs of Parvo which is making us crazy. He will not eat the perscribed diet or anything else. He normally would eat Pubix deli turkey and now he jus turns his head. Any suggestions? Going down hill fast and we can not do anything!
 

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baby food ,cat food,pedilyte,the milkshakes for old people,(not chocolate)You can make meat balls out of cooked chicken and rice or raw hamburg and rice,put one as far back in his throat as you can ,close his mouth till he swallows it. This is force feeding and as a last resort may save your dog.
 

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Good morning!

Our beautiful 7 year old Oliver is really sick. He has been back to the vet 3 times in the last 2 months. The vet is finally doing blood work on him and we'll know that results on Monday. His stool has been bloody and he is going to the bathroom all over the house. Recently he has lost all of his energy and 10lbs in a month. The vet put him on a strict diet which he hates. He assummed it was gastritis and sent us on our way. We're so worried because we just lost our Lab to old age a week ago. His shots are all up to date but he has all of the signs of Parvo which is making us crazy. He will not eat the perscribed diet or anything else. He normally would eat Pubix deli turkey and now he jus turns his head. Any suggestions? Going down hill fast and we can not do anything!

Reply to OliverMoran ("dog is sick" post):If you're not satisfied with what happens Monday with this vet and blood results, how about trying another vet? If he's lethargic and not eating or drinking, I'd consider an emergency vet. At any rate, a more aggressive approach to getting a diagnosis seems warranted. Please let us know what happens.

(you might want to start a new thread since Penny Arcade started this one and replys can get confused between the two of you- to start a new thread just go back to the 'General Basset Hound Discussion' page and click on the "new thread" box on the left above the red bar)
 

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Have you checked out her teeth and gums. Maybe she has a problem with her mouth. The visit to the vet should help you know for sure.
We did and there's nothing out of the ordinary. She also still loves chewing on rawhide, hard treats, and this bone I got her so I don't think it has anything to do with teeth problems.
 

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Hi Penny Arcade's mom.. I feel ya, I had the same problems the first few months I brought Carlos into my home. I absolutely had NO idea about how to handle a basset and it was frustrating. Then I found this forum and boy it's heaven sent.

Crate training really helps, it took Carlos 2-3 weeks to understand that he has too outside. We haven't had any accidents since *knocks wood*

He also refused to eat and would just play and tried to get my attention all day. What I did was I took his food bowl back 15-20 minutes after I put it down, same times everyday, no matter he ate his food or not. He starved himself for two days until he finally ate.

As for the attention seeking behavior, I followed Mikey T's links (thanks!) and it also worked. Carlos used to nag me all day, wouldn't let me do my work, he'd bark incessantly if I sit down in front of my computer or on the phone. After I read Mikey T's links I started to understand that I was the one who let Carlos nag me. So I would give him the attention he wanted before he barked, and if he did bark, I would ignore him until he stopped barking then I distracted him with sit and down training and rewarded him with food. I also make sure he gets plenty of exercise and fetch plays so he burns his energy and becomes calmer inside the house. Now he lets me do my work and he spends most of his time sleeping or playing with his toys. He will tell me when he wants attention (playing fetch or rubbing his belly) or when he wants to go potty.

Anyways, please be patient :)
 

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Hi Penny Arcade's mom.. I feel ya, I had the same problems the first few months I brought Carlos into my home. I absolutely had NO idea about how to handle a basset and it was frustrating. Then I found this forum and boy it's heaven sent.

Crate training really helps, it took Carlos 2-3 weeks to understand that he has too outside. We haven't had any accidents since *knocks wood*

He also refused to eat and would just play and tried to get my attention all day. What I did was I took his food bowl back 15-20 minutes after I put it down, same times everyday, no matter he ate his food or not. He starved himself for two days until he finally ate.

As for the attention seeking behavior, I followed Mikey T's links (thanks!) and it also worked. Carlos used to nag me all day, wouldn't let me do my work, he'd bark incessantly if I sit down in front of my computer or on the phone. After I read Mikey T's links I started to understand that I was the one who let Carlos nag me. So I would give him the attention he wanted before he barked, and if he did bark, I would ignore him until he stopped barking then I distracted him with sit and down training and rewarded him with food. I also make sure he gets plenty of exercise and fetch plays so he burns his energy and becomes calmer inside the house. Now he lets me do my work and he spends most of his time sleeping or playing with his toys. He will tell me when he wants attention (playing fetch or rubbing his belly) or when he wants to go potty.

Anyways, please be patient :)
I'm totally gonna try the food thing. We've just been leaving it down. We figure she'll eat it if she gets hungry. A schedule might work better because then she'll know its not always open to her.

We've been doing the attention thing and it has helped. She just still is having problems peeing inside. We're trying right now to find a crate at a decent price (everything around here is so expensive!) so til then we are using our balcony. She goes there for sleeping or when she's in time out.

She's slowly improving and its making it easier to bond with her. :)
 

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Harley didn't eat for 2 weeks when we brought him home. Put out dry food, if she doesn't eat it within about 10 minutes pick it up. Put it back down at next meal time. Eventually she will figure out that she MUST eat it to not be hungry.
 

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A schedule might work better because then she'll know its not always open to her.
it also helps in potty training as eating stimulates the need to go. So take the dog out a few minutes after eating is usually effective.


]We're trying right now to find a crate at a decent price
a crate is not an imperative. Also keep in mind a schedule with water intake napping and play makes house training a lot easier. because when the dog need to go becones predictable. After drinking, when first getting up and after play or during play lasting 10 minutes or more.
 

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The crate is mostly because it gets so hot here in Texas. She needs a timeout place that won't roast her.

I honestly didn't think of a water schedule. Again, Texas heat. We try to give her a much water as we can.
 

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She needs a timeout place that won't roast her.
How is a crate going to be cooler ? there are far better ways to keep the dog cool than a crate
cooling bed

cooling coats

sade and cooling

or simply soaking the dog in cool water. the evaporative effect helps keep the dog cool for as long as the fur stay wet.



I honestly didn't think of a water schedule. Again, Texas heat. We try to give her a much water as we can.
Adequite acess to water does not mean unlimited access limiting access to water can be done appropriately.
 
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