Basset Hounds Forum banner

1 - 19 of 19 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
11 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Hello all, new to the forum and new to owning a basset. I've only owned boxers since as long as i can remember, so when the opportunity came up to get a basset puppy from my uncle in law, we jumped on it. Love her so far, but I have a question about the number of times she should have to pee and the number of times she does. She'll go outside and pee, sometimes twice and then come inside and pee like three more times in 5 minutes. Her outside pees are pretty lengthy...not like short like spurts everywhere. are the bassets just a peeing breed? she doesn't really drink that much water either. last night she got a drink and then instantly peed. i know it didn't travel through that fast. lol. She's already 5 months old and has had no potty training until we got her, so it's been challenging. Especially trying to figure out her schedule of when she needs to go so we can time it to take her outside. Any help would be great since i know nothing about this breed other than what i've read in the last week. Thanks!
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
5,042 Posts
If she's peeing that frequently I'd have the vet check her for a UTI.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
11 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
It doesn't happen all the time though. Some days, she goes every couple hours or so, and others it's like she has a reserve tank or something.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,862 Posts
It would still be a good idea to have her checked for a UTI, tho, then you can work from there. :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12,947 Posts
you are likely to find peeing frequency tied to activity level the more active the dog the more frequentl the have to pee The are no different than other breed when it comes to potty training except they are slow to mature and develop shincter control/ability to hold it. Which certainly makes house training a lengthier process, Putting the dog on a strict schedual wich include feeding acess to water, activity/exercise sleep ect is the best way to get the dogs eliminations on a schedual. When they are predicable it is much easier to manage the dog and prevent accidents which is the first step to house training

see Housetraining Your Puppy
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,338 Posts
Molly did the exact same thing when she was very young. I was concerned enough to bring it up at a vet appointment. He ruled out UTI and said she was just being a puppy. She is growing out of it at 8 months and is able to hold it a bit longer. Definitely bring it up with the vet and be sure that she's let outside after a play session. Our house is very dry in the winter and Molly's water consumption is high, so that surely has something to do with it.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
761 Posts
If the vet rules out a UTI then what I would suggest is to keep a very close eye on her until you figure out her triggers and her signs that she's got to go. My husband and I put a bell on our 8 month old puppy because she'd wander off and we wouldn't notice and then we'd step in pee later. It really helps to let us know she has to go. What we did when we got Doppler was I followed him all around the house. He kept looking at me like, "What do you want?!" But he had very few accidents. Also, you could try and tether her to you in some fashion. Then you'd definitely notice if she had to pee. Good luck with it!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
11 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
If the vet rules out a UTI then what I would suggest is to keep a very close eye on her until you figure out her triggers and her signs that she's got to go. My husband and I put a bell on our 8 month old puppy because she'd wander off and we wouldn't notice and then we'd step in pee later. It really helps to let us know she has to go. What we did when we got Doppler was I followed him all around the house. He kept looking at me like, "What do you want?!" But he had very few accidents. Also, you could try and tether her to you in some fashion. Then you'd definitely notice if she had to pee. Good luck with it!
I'm having a hard time figuring out her triggers. She always has her nose to the ground smelling everything, everywhere, so i never can tell when she's smelling just to smell or looking for a place to potty. Sometimes she doesn't even smell when she potties in the house. Just a quick pit stop and then back to chasing the cats or playing with my 18 month old. I'm not sure that she has a UTI because she holds fine when she's in her crate. I don't think she'd be able to do that if she had something wrong. Her momma is a nervous and excited pee-er. Maybe she just gets so excited and wound up that she just can't hold it yet. IDK
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,780 Posts
We definitely did the following around thing the first 1 1/2 months-- it was tiring, and it felt like the parent of a toddler. I'm not sure what helped was noticing the triggers (not sure if we figured it out) so much as just catching him in the act, reprimanding him, and taking him outside to do his business. Yes, as we got better at this, he would start to pee, we would tell him 'no' and he would stop, and then we'd carry him outside and he would actually finish peeing there. I think that helped him to understand where to go.

We had an easy time with him-- he was housetrained in 1 1/2 months, after about a dozen accidents.

Also, speaking of bells, at 5 months, we hung up some leftover jingle bells, which were still attached to ribbon. We put it on the doorknob. We jingled it every time we were going out for potty. He showed absolutely no interest in it the first month, and I didn't think we'd ever really end up using it. Then one day, voila! he started ringing the bell. When he did that, we would take him out. Now, at 8 months, he rings the bell to tell us he needs to go #1 or #2. So that is another idea that ended up working for us....
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
11 Posts
Discussion Starter #10
We definitely did the following around thing the first 1 1/2 months-- it was tiring, and it felt like the parent of a toddler. I'm not sure what helped was noticing the triggers (not sure if we figured it out) so much as just catching him in the act, reprimanding him, and taking him outside to do his business. Yes, as we got better at this, he would start to pee, we would tell him 'no' and he would stop, and then we'd carry him outside and he would actually finish peeing there. I think that helped him to understand where to go.

We had an easy time with him-- he was housetrained in 1 1/2 months, after about a dozen accidents.

Also, speaking of bells, at 5 months, we hung up some leftover jingle bells, which were still attached to ribbon. We put it on the doorknob. We jingled it every time we were going out for potty. He showed absolutely no interest in it the first month, and I didn't think we'd ever really end up using it. Then one day, voila! he started ringing the bell. When he did that, we would take him out. Now, at 8 months, he rings the bell to tell us he needs to go #1 or #2. So that is another idea that ended up working for us....
Well for me, it's like having two toddlers. I also have an 18 month old along with 5 month old Button. We've only had her a week..she had no potty training before we got her so she's already gotten into some bad habits...like walking through her potty. Hopefully she learns quickly like your dog did.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,780 Posts
Wow, 2 toddlers... feeling your pain!! well, we didn't get Worm until he was 4 months (no previous toilet training either), and i think that it helps when they are older (better control of bladder and able to hold it longer)... so I do think it will come along for Button.

Good luck w/everything and keep us posted!
(and post some pics if you get the chance, we'd love to see them...!!)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
11 Posts
Discussion Starter #12
Wow, 2 toddlers... feeling your pain!! well, we didn't get Worm until he was 4 months (no previous toilet training either), and i think that it helps when they are older (better control of bladder and able to hold it longer)... so I do think it will come along for Button.

Good luck w/everything and keep us posted!
(and post some pics if you get the chance, we'd love to see them...!!)

How long did it take you to get him fully trained and what method did you use?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12,947 Posts
I have never seen a basset housetrained before six month of age 1 year is typical. Keep in mind lack of accident is no indication of housetraining is is only an indication of how good you are a managing that particular dog. IMHO the reason for the length of time has to do with maturity rather than them just being slow to catch on. that is I won't take a dog already one year old 6 months to potty train. That said since you have to things to over come On the lack of house training, and retraining old entrenched habits it will take longer if he did not have these bad habits. It because a matter of dilligence an a strict schedual to make things predictable. The sooner you get those things in place the sooner he will be trained.

the fastest I got a six month old basset that was reliable using the dog door in less than 3 days. Using a dog door is not house trained either. Most dogs that have acess to a doggie door are not very good at holding it when they have too because that is not require with one.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,557 Posts
I'm a little slow to learn too.
But it's been a good five days since i had my last accident.
I'll be two in August, but this is my first month of being an inside dog so I don't think I'm being TOO too bad...
Incidentally, I've only had two poopie accidents inside. The first time was at my grandmamma's house.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,780 Posts
How long did it take you to get him fully trained and what method did you use?
Hi Salsacookies-- Worm was pretty housetrained after 1 month, and fully trained by 1 1/2 months after we got him. He was 5 1/2 months at that point.
(Mikey, you should have met Worm at that time...)

I was thinking more to see what useful info I can share...

Now when I think back, he may have had a head start at his breeders. He and 15-16 bassets (mostly pups from his own and other litters, as well as a couple adults) all lived together in one area. They were apparently supposed to go bathroom farther down on the concrete, away from their sleeping area. His breeder said that he was learning and was doing that already, because the older dogs were peeing there. But he was otherwise unsupervised and not housetrained by anyone, per se. ie, he could have peed in their sleeping spot and nobody (except dogs) would have reprimanded him. I do find that Worm is good about peeing where other dogs pee. And he's good about doing #1 and #2 in the same spots outside. At 8 months now, I just bring him to the spot and he goes right away. Does your dog has pee spots and #2 spots where she likes to go?

Sounds like your puppy does go outside, but also goes when you come back in too... hmmm, we never had that issue with Worm. He emptied everything outside, so I don't know what to say about that.

I guess we just used the method of keeping an eagle's eye on him (Mikey's right, that "good housetraining" might just be "good supervision.") We were tired from following him everywhere that first 1 1/2 months, but I think it paid off in the following ways: 1. like I posted before, it was really good when we interrupted him in the middle of a pee, took him outside to the pee spot, and then he finished his business. helped him to understand what to do. (but that stinker, sometimes it was hard to tell that's what he was doing until it was too late. he still squats like the females, so when he pees, it just looks like prolonged sitting.. easy to miss). 2. we were always able to stop him from chewing bad stuff because we were watching him so closely. we have not had major problems with him chewing things like furniture, etc. Nowadays, I can watch him a lot less, because I am able to trust that he won't go to the bathroom. He's the one who rings the bell when he wants to go.

Even when we went camping recently, I took him to the perimeter of the campsite to pee as soon as we got there. After that, he would always go back there to pee. He was on a long lead, and when he needed to go #1 or #2, he would whine to tell us he needed to go. So he never went in our campsite, even though it was a very grassy area. Good dog.

Something else interesting: Took him to daycare this week, and they recorded him peeing 7 times (!) in 8 hours. That tells me he would naturally like to pee more than he does when he's with me. He holds it. Nowadays, when awake, he wants to go out to pee every 2 hrs, roughly. But when we were housetraining, we would have to take him out every hour when awake, or else he would have an accident. (believe me, i was quite bitter at times. but if i didn't there would be an accident).

I'm ok taking him out every 2 hrs now when he's awake. Also because he stays in his crate for 4-6 hrs at a time and doesn't pee or mess up his crate (he's never done that). And he sleeps through the night without needing to go pee (8-10 hrs).

What else? we don't use puppy pads or newspapers or anything like that. I decided it would be too confusing for him. We basically send him the message-- it's not ok to pee ANYwhere in our home at anytime.

How's the housetraining going with your puppy now?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
11 Posts
Discussion Starter #17
Hi Salsacookies-- Worm was pretty housetrained after 1 month, and fully trained by 1 1/2 months after we got him. He was 5 1/2 months at that point.
(Mikey, you should have met Worm at that time...)

I was thinking more to see what useful info I can share...

Now when I think back, he may have had a head start at his breeders. He and 15-16 bassets (mostly pups from his own and other litters, as well as a couple adults) all lived together in one area. They were apparently supposed to go bathroom farther down on the concrete, away from their sleeping area. His breeder said that he was learning and was doing that already, because the older dogs were peeing there. But he was otherwise unsupervised and not housetrained by anyone, per se. ie, he could have peed in their sleeping spot and nobody (except dogs) would have reprimanded him. I do find that Worm is good about peeing where other dogs pee. And he's good about doing #1 and #2 in the same spots outside. At 8 months now, I just bring him to the spot and he goes right away. Does your dog has pee spots and #2 spots where she likes to go?

Sounds like your puppy does go outside, but also goes when you come back in too... hmmm, we never had that issue with Worm. He emptied everything outside, so I don't know what to say about that.

I guess we just used the method of keeping an eagle's eye on him (Mikey's right, that "good housetraining" might just be "good supervision.") We were tired from following him everywhere that first 1 1/2 months, but I think it paid off in the following ways: 1. like I posted before, it was really good when we interrupted him in the middle of a pee, took him outside to the pee spot, and then he finished his business. helped him to understand what to do. (but that stinker, sometimes it was hard to tell that's what he was doing until it was too late. he still squats like the females, so when he pees, it just looks like prolonged sitting.. easy to miss). 2. we were always able to stop him from chewing bad stuff because we were watching him so closely. we have not had major problems with him chewing things like furniture, etc. Nowadays, I can watch him a lot less, because I am able to trust that he won't go to the bathroom. He's the one who rings the bell when he wants to go.

Even when we went camping recently, I took him to the perimeter of the campsite to pee as soon as we got there. After that, he would always go back there to pee. He was on a long lead, and when he needed to go #1 or #2, he would whine to tell us he needed to go. So he never went in our campsite, even though it was a very grassy area. Good dog.

Something else interesting: Took him to daycare this week, and they recorded him peeing 7 times (!) in 8 hours. That tells me he would naturally like to pee more than he does when he's with me. He holds it. Nowadays, when awake, he wants to go out to pee every 2 hrs, roughly. But when we were housetraining, we would have to take him out every hour when awake, or else he would have an accident. (believe me, i was quite bitter at times. but if i didn't there would be an accident).

I'm ok taking him out every 2 hrs now when he's awake. Also because he stays in his crate for 4-6 hrs at a time and doesn't pee or mess up his crate (he's never done that). And he sleeps through the night without needing to go pee (8-10 hrs).

What else? we don't use puppy pads or newspapers or anything like that. I decided it would be too confusing for him. We basically send him the message-- it's not ok to pee ANYwhere in our home at anytime.

How's the housetraining going with your puppy now?
I'm not really sure. It's hard to keep her on a schedule right now because of school and boyfriend's work schedule and symphony. I have school monday and wednesday at 830, tuesday and thursday at 1130. aaron works 10-9 MTW and we have symphony thursday from 7-9. so button gets to be with my sister who watches her and my daughter when i'm at school and on thursday they both go to my mom's house. I somehow have to keep up with housework and homework and other things too and i used to be able to do t
hat while sophie was taking a nap. now the only way i can do any of that is if sophie is taking a nap and i put button in her crate. i don't want to keep her in her crate all the time, but i can't watch her all the time either.

This dog is worse than a toddler. She's always running off with sophie's shoes, stuffed animals, farm animals from her farm. even our shoes.

She does go outside and goes in the same general area, but she also goes inside too and has both peed and pooped in her house.

I don't know what to do about her. She doesn't use potty pads...she prefers to chew them up. Maybe i'm not using the right method. IDK
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,780 Posts
Salsacookies-- wow, that is a tough schedule. Sounds very busy.

But I think you're on the right track. I would absolutely crate Worm anytime I couldn't watch him: when i was cooking, cleaning, taking a shower (I still crate him now when I take a shower, just in case he gets into something he's not supposed to), anytime I stepped outside to empty trash, etc. I would just throw a treat in his crate and let him be there for a little while. Sometimes I'll give him a chew, a rib bone, or kong toy, so that he would be occupied for 20-30 minutes. Other times, he would whine a little, but then take a nap.

For your basset not to get into things, requires "puppyproofing" the house. We took everything off the floor, hid the shoes in the closet, even have to move the wires and computer cables. Then we had few problems. Now, I don't know how it would work w/a toddler and her toys... maybe put them up a little higher so puppy can't reach. or separate out their areas w/baby gates...? maybe others w/this sort of experience can share more about what they did...

that's good that she has a pee spot she likes.

How does she do when she's at your relatives' places? does she pee inside their places too? if so, I would say it's important for them to keep a really close eye on her too. otherwise, it will be harder for her to get housetrained. and if they can't, you might think about crating her more. when I first got Worm, he was in the crate 4-6 hrs at a time 4 days/week because of my work schedule. I would come back at lunch break and let him out and try to spend 1-2 hrs w/him, then he had to go back in the crate again.... so I'm sharing that to let you know that it's ok to use her crate to help with housetraining.
Does she pee/poo inside her crate? if she doesn't, you can really use this as an advantage for housetraining.

sorry you are having a hard time. it does get better.

ps. Worm didn't really have a regular schedule, either. The schedule was, when I got home, I took him out of the crate and straight outside, so he could do his business. Then I had to take a trip outside every hour he was awake. (if i waited too long, he would pee in the house). A good rule of thumb for Worm was that anytime he was in the crate awhile (while I was cooking or showering), he would want to pee as soon as I let him out, so I eventually learned to take him outside immediately after taking him out of the crate. And I would consolidate my chores, and do them while I put Worm in the crate for 45 min - 1 1/2 hrs or so at a time. Another thought is to take her out for longer walks after she pees, to give her more opportunities to fully empty her bladder. I had read not to bring them right back in after they pee-- instead, reward them by taking a nice walk after they do their business. (tho these days, we do zip outside to do business, then right back in, when I'm in a hurry, and Worm is ok w/it)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
203 Posts
Mattie is 6 years old and she is still a peepot!! I think sometimes her bladder is the size of a pea. She still to this day has accidents in the house (only number 1's thank goodness)!! But working with the puppy is the best thing, Mattie wasn't on a schedule, I worked nights so it was hard. I always took her out every 1 to 2 hours for potty breaks when I was home. Luckly I only worked 4 to 6 hours tops and if it was longer then that then my mom came and left her out or Mattie went to Grandma's house. Now days, Mattie can come in from potty break and turn right back around a half in hour later to go back out!!! Mattie has had UTI and they are horrible!! Then she is out every 2 minutes! GOOD LUCK!!
 
1 - 19 of 19 Posts
Top