they where out in Oregon the year after Gburg.2004 i think it was.i'm glad my father and i didn't go!!! the way i was told the field trials were run,i think i would have had to have a nice long talk with the field trial chairman.i don't know because i wasn't there and i am going by what i was told,but there would have been some words exchanged for sure.i also feel that the Judging of the 2003 Hunt Test was awesome,no free passes were given for sure.