thanks Belinda,i'll let you know if he is going if you don't here from me he ain't.Jeff Pettit and/or Cindy Barlow were going to handle and take him out for me,but i'm quite sure they would be more than happy to have a helping hand or two,they have a lot of dogs they bring to a trial.Jeff did a lot of AHBA stuff when he was in the Ohio area as well as the AKC trials.if Ike don't go and you want to help them out i will not feel hurt,plus they are cool people too.