Actually that 1200 dollars price is quite reasonable for the pet quality offered by well respected breeders.Hello. I have checked the BHCA and I found some breeders but they want about $1200 for basset, and these are people who are breeding show quality dogs and happen to have pet quality. I am trying to find JUST pet quality. I know the purpose of AKC and know all about it. I am happy with getting a basset with vet certificate and AKC papers. I'm not going to breed the dog, just have it as a pet. Can anyone help with breeders at a reasonable price within the above states?? Thanks
You are making sweeping generalizations about breeders just because they do not show which are not necessarily true. I do know a bit about showing, breeding and being a serious breeder. I use to show and breed beagles, (to much work, I do not show or breed anymore) and my sister has been showing and breeding labs now for over 20 years.I'd also have to say $1200 isn't bad for a puppy from a reputable breeder. No reputable breeder has a litter just to produce pet quality puppies. The whole purpose in breeding is to better the breed whether it be in terms of conformation, temperament, hunting ability or other health-wise. A good breeder is going to do the tests that are recommended because they have taken the time to show their dogs in the ring to know that they are of the quality that should be bred. They pour over pedigrees for hours on end to try and find the perfect match and they meet these prospective studs to see if they have the traits that they need to improve in their dogs. Breeding is an expensive and sometimes heartbreaking hobby that few people make money at if they do it right. I can tell you we learned the hard way the difference between buying through a reputable breeder and the others who call themselves breeders. If you are curious you can go to my website and read my story as I won't rehash it here. Sufice it to say we lost our first girl from a so called breeder at a very young age and since then have gotten a (show) puppy from a reputable breeder and while the intial cost for our show girl may have been significantly higher she is everything we hoped for and more and she is worth every penny. She is the most well grounded, even tempered dog I have ever met and has been the healthiest dog we have ever owned as well so while she may have costed us more to start with... she's saved us more than the other two combined in the short 4 years that we've owned her. She is worth every penny we paid for her and more.
True that, but it might help if you stated your opinions as opinions, not as if they were facts.Well you have your opinion and I have mine. That is why they are called opinions and everyone is entitled to one.
You are right my definition of a reputable breeder is high. However I feel that there are far too many dogs out there in shelters and rescues for it to be done any other way. I was duped into buying from someone who didn't fit those standards the first time, someone who just produced pets and we lost that first dog to cancer at 3 1/2 and felt the heartbreak that goes along with it so yes I feel very strongly in my view that you either do it right or you don't do it at all. I try every day to keep others from making that same mistake I made, to try and save them the pain and agony of losing one so young.True that, but it might help if you stated your opinions as opinions, not as if they were facts.
By your definition of a reputable breeders, not one dog I've ever owned was from a reputable breeder. And I had one sweet 13in show quality beagle many years ago.
You are right my definition of a reputable breeder is high. However I feel that there are far too many dogs out there in shelters and rescues for it to be done any other way. I was duped into buying from someone who didn't fit those standards the first time, someone who just produced pets and we lost that first dog to cancer at 3 1/2 and felt the heartbreak that goes along with it so yes I feel very strongly in my view that you either do it right or you don't do it at all. I try every day to keep others from making that same mistake I made, to try and save them the pain and agony of losing one so young.
The problem is all this hubbub about hybrid vigor has absolutely no way of being proven, show me the statistics of where they have run long term studies on any line of hybrids so that they can truly be compared with some of the well bred purebreds and then maybe I'll buy it but till then it's just heresay.While I agree that there are far too many dogs in shelters, I don't see where that has anything to do with what standards one considers to be required for a breeder to be reputable. And you sort of defeat your own argument by stating that helping to find a reputable breeder is to try and save people from the pain of losing a dog young. Fact is pure bred dog, do the the in breeding, even in reputable lines, to get the "Best quality dog" have many more health issues and shorter life expectancies than mixed breed dogs. Dogs That Changed the World - Selective Breeding Problems - Genetics | Nature
Hmm... once again you have shown no statistical proof of this hybred vigor. Your quote clearly states that these mutts "SHOULD LIVE LONGER". I can tell you I've seen many mutts with just as many health issues as any other dog. And as for smaller dogs living longer statistically ... well smaller breeds yes I'll give you that one but there is no such statistic that says smaller bassets live longer than larger ones. Do I believe that the bassets should be kept in decent condition and in proper weight, ABSOLUTELY and yes I have seen many bassets in the ring who could stand to lose a few pounds, one of them being my girl, but I'm talking a pound or two in her case. However I can show you several 60 lb. bassets (in perfect weight) who are fine examples of the standard who have lived to 15 and 16 years old.". . . Steven N. Austad, PhD, a professor and researcher on aging at the Department of Cellular and Structural Biology at the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio, says besides looking at small dogs, people looking for the longest-lived dogs also should look at mixed breed dogs and females.
"Female dogs tend to live a bit longer, although it's not as pronounced as it is with humans," Austad says.
Many purebred dogs come with a laundry list of health issues, which can cut into their life spans. Some are specific just to one breed, others can be a problem in many breeds.
"Mutts haven't gone through the inbreeding, so they should live longer, or at least be healthier than your purebred dogs," Austad says. . . "
Perhaps if people still bred dogs for just for their original purposes, mostly hunting and working, it might be different. But most pure bred dogs today are bred for an on paper standard, which is correct only in the eyes of the of the kennel club executives that wrote it, not even necessarily in the eyes of the rest of the members of the club.
There seems to be a fair amount of contention just in the basset organizations as to whether the current conformation standard is correct or if the trend toward bigger, bulkier, and floppier has reduced their ability to do what they were first bred for. I perfer smaller lighter bassets myself, even though I no longer hunt. And don't see how breeding for bigger is a good thing, as it is statistically show that smaller dogs also live longer.
One, I never said smaller bassets out live larger ones. When I said smaller dogs, I meant breeds.And as for smaller dogs living longer statistically ... well smaller breeds yes I'll give you that one but there is no such statistic that says smaller bassets live longer than larger ones.
So you've just made my point for me. We're going to have to agree to disagree here as I will still go for a well bred dog who's pedigree and health history I can research over a mutt any day. No pedigree evidence or health history you are going to be able to find in any database on a mutt. That's all I'm saying...One, I never said smaller bassets out live larger ones. When I said smaller dogs, I meant breeds.
And as far as statistical evidence, you can't show my any that says mutts don't live longer either. There isn't any.
But in my experience as someone that bred dogs, and has family members that breed, (my father bred hunting dogs, my kid sister has been a reputable professional breeder for over 20 years, actually rated in the top 10 in the nation by AKC a few years back), and as someone who has owned and been around many dogs both mutts and pure bred for many years, the empirical evidence to me is overwhelming. We have had many mutts live near or over 20 years, not so with pure bred dogs.