[Lady's Mama]

Hi, I am new to the site and I'm hoping someone has some advice for my poor Lady! I adopted 8 year old Lady from a rescue about a month ago. She was on Ivermectin for a skin issue when I adopted her and her skin was doing great. She has been eating Nutro Grain Free Turkey Meal and Potato and loves it. Just a few days ago she started scratching much more than usual. Now she has raw spots on her legs and the fur on her sides is almost gone. She smells stinky (as does her breath). I just bathed her on Saturday with the same oatmeal shampoo I've been using since I got her since she came to live with me. I made sure to rinse her fur several times during the bath so no shampoo would be left behind. I feel horrible for her. Any suggestions???

 

[Soundtrack]

Skin problems can be caused by a myriad of different issues. You'd really need to discuss it with a vet.

Being on ivermectin suggests she might be dealing with demodex? and possibly an immune dysfunction?

 

[Mikey T]

If she is on Ivermectin for skin issue that means she is being treated for a parisite ie mange

Does she have dandruff? if so a common basset skin issue is likely the cause called seborrhea. In most dogs seborrhea is a secondary condition caused by a more primary one however in basset it is most often a genetic primary cause of skin problems there is no cure but treating with with an anti seborrheact shampoo like selsun blue or a specialty product which can be as often as ever three days helps . Keep in mind the sampoo must remain on for at least 15 minutes to achieve full effectiveness. Also be sure to rinse tthourghly as well. that means twice as long as it takes so not soap suds are seen in the rince water,.

Other cause of the hot spot easily could be that 1. all the mite treated with the ivermected were not killed and the mange has returned.

2. fleas even if she is on a flea treatment flea bite allergies are the most common allergy in dogs and only a single flea bite is required to cause a hot spot.



the smell is likely a yeast infection this is general secondary to other skin problems so they need to be cleared up to deal with the yeast. As for bad breath provided the dog does not have peridontial disease nor has eaten something foal then lip fold pyderma enters the miix. check around the lower lips for a red area often swollon with pustuals sort of like really bad acne. Treatment is cleaning the area frequently often with acne type medication benzolyperoxide 10% shampoo. This regimine works for most dogs but if not surgery is possible to remove the lip fold that everything is getting traped in Mariah required such surger on both sides and it cleared up the problem and help with her breath emensely.


I find most vest are not very good at dealling with skin issues in dogs because of the primary secondary nature of most skin issues that is what you often see is not the real cause. ie yeast infection of the skin secondary to allergy etc. To sort through this I general suggest consulting with a vet that specializes in dermatology

find a dermatologist

Seborrhea In dogs

seborrhea

yeast infect Skin

Itch Relief

Sarcoptic Manage

 

[jaleely]

mike that dermatology finder website is great!
I had bowser on ivermectin for a while, since he's had two bouts of demodectic mange. He has HORRIBLE breath, but I haven't been able to find anything around his mouth..no pockets or folds of yeasty spots. He's always, always been itchy. I assumed it was the mange, but recently i've found that he's gotten worse, so i changed his food, and he did seem to get better (by recently i mean the past few weeks, and changed his food the past couple days). His belly and legs were just PINK with irritation and he is still sooo itchy.
Saw this website yesterday:
Assessing Allergies or Skin Problems in Pets | Nzymes.com

It's kind of like that one you've shown me before, mikey, about the food and stuff. We're doing some treatment on our own, but I'm seriously considering the doggy dermatologist now!

 

[Mikey T]

you need a systematic approach for instnce did the problem start to clear before the food change? it general takes two weeks for a change in food to effect allergic reaction if this is not the case then an coincidental evironmental change that reduced an atopic allergin is likely. Often what happens is people suspect food allergires not because they are more coomon if fact they account of 10-15 percent of allergies in dogs but because it is the easiet to control. Dog has a problem in the spring try a new dogfood gets better by fall obvious a food allergy except it happens year after year Is the dog becomeing allergic to more food or simply the problem seasonal allergies that actual go untreated. It is why a dermatoligist is a godsend in such cases, Keep in mind that elsa and other allergy testing is not cheap and not effective in diagnosing food allergies but has a good tract recorded with atopic (inhallant and contact allergins like pollen dust and mold)

 

[Lady's Mama]

I was told she had mange when she was given to the rescue 3 months ago. A week before I adopted her she was given a cortisone shot. Then she was put on ivermectin for 30 days and I was told she could not have chicken, beef or dairy. She has finished ther ivermectin and now she's a mess! She did steal a bag of double stuf oreo cookies and 3 mini donuts Saturday night while we were sleeping ~ what a way to find out she's a food thief! The dairy in the products may be what is causing her outbreak. As for her food, she has been on the new food for a month. She was eating Fromms salmon a la veggie prior to me adopting her. It's just so weird because this chronic itching came out of nowhere.

 

[Mikey T]

She has finished ther ivermectin and now she's a mess!

which is more likely a recurrance of the mange not something else but you need a vet or better yet a specialist in dermatology to make that determination

A recurrance of manage after treatment tends more toward Soundtracks Demodic mange than scarpotic mange but either is posible. in older dogs demodic mange is usuually the result of genetical comprimised immune system or an underly disease like liver problems.

Demodectic Mange

Most demodicosis occurs in young dogs, under age one and a half. An older dog should not get demodicosis unless he or she has an underlying problem with the immune system. In such cases, demodicosis is considered a indication to seek a more serious hidden condition such as cancer, liver or kidney disease, or an immune-suppressive hormone imbalance. A more extensive medical work-up will be required.

 

[Princess Buttercup]

Mmm good choice lady! Who can resist Oreos & mini donuts!!!

 

[Herzo]

Well if it were me I would get that dog on a better food. Actually my Natural health dog book says fast for 5 to 7 days, don't know if I could do that. But is there a more natural or homeopathic Vet in your area, although I have never been to a dermatologist for a dog so that's probably a good idea. I just don't think vets are very good at nutrition, at least in my experience. I'm not trying to start a fight or anything it just seems like they always want to put your dog on Science Diet and I would have to die first. Saw dust? I don't think so.

I'm sure the cookies and donuts didn't help, but the Fromm food she was on is a much better food.

I have Dr. Pitcairn's book Natural Health for Dogs ans Cats and I just love it, it gives allot of herbal and homeopathic things to do for about every ailment.