[Mikey T]

Hmm.. well they are still small, so don't get one TOO big or else they might poop or pee on one side and sleep on the other

I reccomend getting a crate big enough for the dog when it is full size. Many crates come with dividers you can use to to make the crate small enough for a puppy and keep expanding as the puppy gets bigger. At the worst you can simply stuff the crate with boxes to fill up the excess space as well. The size of the parents sire and dam are the best indication of the adult dog females ten to be about 10 lb lighter than males of the same litter as adults. A 36" long crate works well for an adult dog that like to curl while sleep while a 42 or 48 works better for a dog that likes to streach out. the Think in I think puppies ten to sleep streached out more than teir adult counter parts so I don;t thing ther is a strong colrolation to how a puupy sleed and how it will sleep as an adult so the adult sleep preference is a bit of a crap shoot.

 

[Mikey T]

Also remember that fustration is good, It is what motivates people to train their dog, without fustration there would be a lot less dog training happening,

 

[Mikey T]

One onther thing What ever the surface is like that they have been having accident on in the house I want to make sure the the crate does not mimic that as it will make having accident in the crate more likely. If the dog is peeing on carpet I would not want a soft fluffy dog bed in the crate opting for a plastic airline crate with a hard soild floor. If the dog are going on hardwood , tile etc then you do want a soft pad in the crate. You want the substrate in the crate to discourage the dog from going.

 

[Mikey T]

Onike other breed width and hieght of the crate are not real issue. if you get one long enough it will be wide and tall enough.

 

[Mikey T]

36" long sounds too small?

depends on the dog Macey is over 50# and not a small female by any mean but perfers the smaller 30" crates to the larger ones. Toughy who was about the same size need a 42" or longer cause he liked to streach out Macey does not. My harrier that is just shy of 50 lb absolute favorite crate is the beagle crate approx 12x18x 18 he stuff himself in there tighter than 20 college students in a phone booth Contrarry to many insituting humane law many dogs want a crate that fits them tightly the feel more secure so Bigger is not always better. The problem is it is very difficult to predict what a puppy is going to prefer as an adult. Make your best quess and be prepared to adjust if need be when the dog gets older.

 

[Mikey T]

So far you it look at you are looking at metal crates. A few thing to keep in mind about crates is you need to consider how they will be used.

For example if you are going to use the crate as a training tool al la " crate games" not simply as containment to assit in house training then actual a plasic crate is a better choice because the solid back work bettter when trowing food into the crate. Plastic airline style crates also is more secure in prevent spills/ liquid from escapling then the trays in a metal crate. They are also much lighter. They do not offer the same amount of ventillation and or visibility but being to see out is a double endged sword as well with an active puppy reducing visual stimuli general help in getting the pup to calm down and rest which is generally what you want when the dog is in a crate IF you need to transport a plastic crate it is a giagantic pain they take up a lot of space compared to a folding metal crate.

Metal crate are available fold and ridged. Foldiang crates are muck more convienent for travel/using at a location out side the home. The are not a sturdy. there have been reports of injury and death with dog that manage to unlatch the side panels and get wedged in. There are metal crate made from alluminium much ligher than steel but you pay a premium price. There are even crates the use frabric beside being cheaper the are ligher and colapse for easy transport they certainly not as secure and the offer no protection from accident

There is no perfect crate the closed I ever saw were Nylabones folding plastic crates the where just about the perfect compromise The giant problem they are no longer made. If you can find a use one or two i would pick them up . I believe they were ~ 32 inches long which was fine for all my dogs except Toughy.
the large 32”L x 22”W x 24H” I see where one went on ebay for $315 for a crate that sold for ~80 new.

I would avoid using a single crate even if the dogs a seperated by a barrier. Part of the purpose of the crate beside confinement is to get the dogs to rest. If they are next to each other they will play even through the barrier and this activity is coing to make accident in the crate much more likely and less helpful in house training.