Well for those of you who give your dogs Bully Sticks, I finally bought some bully rings. Same thing (made by red barn like others on here), but in the shape of rings. Lily loved it from the start. Gibbs wouldn't touch it. Once Lily put her 1/2 eaten soft one down he then took interest and took hers over. The thought of them are gross, but they seem to be a winner with my dogs.