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Our six year old basset hound started developing yeast infections in his ears for about the last year. We live in Ohio.

Our Vet has prescribed Malotic 15G/Triotic/Gentizol and Ketoconozole 200 MG which have cleared up the yeast infections, but they seem to come back in a couple months and then we repeat the above medications.

We have recently changed his diet several times, we are now on Exclusive Lamb & Rice Dog Food which hasn't resolved the issue (our Vet thought it would):

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I did a search of the site before I posted this and nothing really stood out.

Any ways to prevent the cycle and stop the infections?

Any ways to self treat this problem instead of Vet visits and medications every few months?

As I wrote above this is a relatively recent problem.

Thank you ahead of time for the replies.
 

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First is to keep their ears clean and dry. Mine wore hats when I lived in Florida, and that would keep their ears up a bit to allow for some air movement.

Second, yeast feed on sugar. The dog I had yeast issues with, it wasn't the main food, it was the treats. Once I stopped giving him a certain kind of treat, the yeast died off. I guess I starved them to death.
 

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Glycerin?

One of the salmon treats we were using has sugar in it. However, the other chicken treat has "chicken, vegetable glycerin & salt". Is vegetable glycerin also unacceptable?

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Have you also changed the treats you give your dog. Sometimes even if you change the food but not the treats, the allergen can still be in the treats you give and keep causing the infection.

You could also try making what I call "basset ear gear" if you're handy with a sewing machine. It's basically a large hair scrunchie made of a wide piece of elastic with fabric covering it. Here is one I made model by the vivacious Ms. Layla Jane.
 

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What CUTE pics of Layla!

say, are you taking orders-- Worm says he would like to have one and would pay $$ to stop having to use these chip clips for his ears...!

back to the original post, is your basset getting his ears wet somehow? and what about during baths? and how often does he get baths? are you using a weekly ear rinse for his ears?

Worm's had 1 ear infxn (also yeast) at the very beginning, and since then, for his weekly rinse, our vet has us use a prescription solution that has definitely an anti-fungal/anti-yeast and also Tromethamine (Tris)-- not sure what Tris is. He hasn't had any ear infection issues since...
 

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Harley gets them too and our vet recommended trying an OTC antihistamine, but we haven't since he absolutely refuses to take any pills larger than microscopic.
 

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I'm so sorry to hear about you're little guy’s ear problem – Ouch, I remember how bad they hurt. Did you ever try “OtiRinse”? It’s an ear cleansing & drying solution. We got that from our vet years ago to use as a preventive when I clean their ears. It appears to work as their ears have been one of the few areas I haven’t had problems with. I let them smell it before put it in their ear – then give them a good ear massage and then wipe them out real good. And you can't forget the treat they get when its done. :D


Harley gets them too and our vet recommended trying an OTC antihistamine, but we haven't since he absolutely refuses to take any pills larger than microscopic.
Kirska, Did you ever try cream cheese for Harley? I get the blocks of cream cheese – and just wrap the pill in it – it goes down in one quick swallow. For the larger pills I have a pill cutter so I’m not giving too large a ball of cheese. All my guys now look at pill time as “treat” time. Thank goodness…

Jen~
 

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Second, yeast feed on sugar.
ueast feed on a lot of things sugar being one of them, tHe largest source of sugur in the diet is carbohydrates which are converted to simple sugars by siliva. Are you sugesting that someone with athelets foot infection not eat any charbohydrates the and just how does the "sugar that you eat get to the outside dead layers of skin This not feeding sugar or not eating sugar to prevent a yeast infect is B.S.

CHAPTER 10: Yeast Infections

The notion of a sugar-yeast link started when researchers concluded that diabetes was a predisposing factor for yeast infection.11 This is true. We now know that diabetics are more frequently colonized by yeast than nondiabetic women—however, most diabetics do not have repeated yeast infections.12 Still, sugar connections were searched for because work in the laboratory suggested that yeast was more aggressive in response to the availability of sugar.13 Recommendations of dietary dos and don'ts mushroomed. To date, however, there is only one nutritional study on women with culture-proven yeast infections. It was done by a New England expert on yeast vaginitis. He found increased levels of three kinds of sugar (glucose, arabinose, and ribose) in the urine of women with recurrent yeast infections. Dietary patterns associated with these urinary sugars were a high intake of table sugar (sucrose) or sugar-rich foods, milk (more than a quart per day), cottage cheese, yogurt, and artificial sweeteners that contain milk sugar (lactose). In that study, eliminating excessive consumption of these foods brought a dramatic reduction in the incidence and severity of yeast infections.14 We just don't know enough, though, to make any blanket recommendations.
So unless a dog is peeing in its ear this is not a big source or change in sugar Also the yeast most common in ear infection is a diferent yeast/fungus entirely. Generally the fungus/yeast causing ear infections is from the Malassezia genus which feed on fatty acids only, not sugar. which makes a lot of sense since they are normally skin fungi while fatty acids are prevelent on the skin not sugar is not.
Seborrhoeic dermatitis
Only saturated fatty acids (FAs) have been shown to support Malassezia growth.


Recurring yeast infections in the ears are generally the result of an underlying dermalogical skin condition. the two most promenient are allergies and the second being Seborrhea. Keep in mind food allergies only account for ~10 of all allergies in dogs many act like it is much higher but it is not the case. Seborrhea which in basset is generally the oilly type with a greasy coat feel and dandruff, there is a dry type as well. It is thought to be genetic in origin in the basset.
Unles the underlying causes are under control it is like for ear infections to keep reappearing. Most general practicing vets are not very good at working through skin problems you may be better served with a vet that specializes in dermatology

find a dermatologist
 

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Sorry, my experience with yeast has to do primarily with female bulimics and people who have recurrent skin yeast infections in folds that develop due to extreme weight loss. It is not unusual for bulimics to binge on high sugar foods, and they often have recurrent yeast infections in a place that men don't have to deal with. A low sugar diet can greatly help break the cycle of infection. As to yeast in fold irritations, corn starch used to treat the high moisture in that area can cause more harm than good, so we switch them to talc based powder.

I'm sorry that you found my answer to be B.S.
 

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What CUTE pics of Layla!

say, are you taking orders-- Worm says he would like to have one and would pay $$ to stop having to use these chip clips for his ears...!
Layla says thank you! I would be happy to make one for Worm. I would need to know how big around his neck is (this one is made for Layla's neck size - which is fairly thick). Just PM your information and I can get started on a custom one for Worm.
 

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I can't even remember the last time any of my Bassets had anything wrong with their ears because I have been using THORNIT powder for many years now on them and would not be without it. A pinch in each ear every week keeps them healthy and stops the dreaded ear mites etc. It has a lovely clean smell as well. No more buying liquid ear cleaner from the Vets which I didn't find all that successful anyway as it leaves the ears moist, which encourages bacteria to multiply. I always recommend Thornit to all my doggie friends. You can get it in many places, including Amazon, Ebay, online chemists and Pet Meds, vet suppliers etc.

http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=Thornit+powder+for+dogs+ears&aq=0j&aqi=g-j1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6eac40516a32a8d3&biw=1238&bih=627

Try it... you'll never look back and I bet vets wished they'd started it up so they could charge 4x the price!

PS: I got eye drops (for tears) for my elderly Cocker Spaniel that he needs all the time and my vet charged £9 for them yet I can buy them for £1.60 online, so needless to say, I buy them online (not prescription, just for a dry eye)!
 

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Sorry, my experience with yeast has to do primarily with female bulimics and people who have recurrent skin yeast infections in folds that develop due to extreme weight loss. It is not unusual for bulimics to binge on high sugar foods, and they often have recurrent yeast infections in a place that men don't have to deal with
That is a problem treating all bacterial infections the same as well gram positive and negative bacteria respond differently . In the case of bulimic women and dogs we are talk to different organisim that feed on very different food sources

in the case of canidea Which is the most common yeast found in the part men don't have , they feed on simple sugasr, though scant there is some evidence that modifying a high sugar diet to a more moderate may help but there is no evidence that changing a moderate diet to a low no sugar diet helps. In the case of dogs where the primary cause of infection is fatty acid eating yeast sugar plays no part. All yeast is not the same. It is why shampoo therapy with antimicrobial substances and others that strip excess oil from the skin can be very effective on yeast infections of dogs.
 

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All my guys now look at pill time as “treat” time. Thank goodness…
Ours do too. We've always treated pills as super special treats. The dogs have to run through all of their tricks before they get their pills. And we've never had a problem getting them to take their medicine.

But as to the ear infection. I don't have much help to offer you. We've gotten lucky as we've never had to deal with an ear infection with either of ours. Are you putting a cotton ball down his ears when he gets a bath? That might help. Although it being a yeast infection maybe not. Try to stop giving him one treat or whatever at a time. For one week (or more of course) stop giving him one certain kind of treat like Milkbones. See if it makes the ear infections better. If there's no change then add it back in and stop another one. This way you can get a better idea of what might or might not be contributing to the problem. Good luck with everything! Healing drool getting slung your way from Doppler and Virga.
 

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Layla says thank you! I would be happy to make one for Worm. I would need to know how big around his neck is (this one is made for Layla's neck size - which is fairly thick). Just PM your information and I can get started on a custom one for Worm.
Thank you!!! what a great momma you have! will PM you the info once we have it.

--Worm
 
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