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Hi everyone,

I have a problem. My kids adore Libby, but they are angry because Libby does her business in a high traffic area of the yard, the playground, go figure :rolleyes: . I can't always see when she goes to the bathroom because she no longer makes when I go out with her. If I do, she just follows me or sits by my feet quietly, a complete waste of time. She'll pee, but not poop. Anyway, I was wondering if dividing the yard would be a good idea. So that Libby and the kids have their own space, that way if I see that she's gone to the bathroom on her side, she can be invited to theirs.

**This is completely off topic, but for those new basset owners, like me, who are having night troubles with their puppies, about two months ago, I put a comfortable dog bed inside of Libby's crate. Ever since, she doesn't whine to go outside, sleeps all night with no accidents. I don't know why, but she won't make on that pillow. That pillow gave me back my sleep. She's four-and-a-half months old now. The funny part is that if the pillow's not in her crate, then she'll whine all night. I hope that's not a bad thing :( .
 

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I think dogs have a natural instinct to not soil their sleeping area.

We used that fact to housebreak Murray pretty quickly. At night,I put a big soft bed in his crate which was beside my side of the bed. When he wanted to go potty, he would fuss because he didn't want to soil his bed- I would get up, take him out to his potty place, praise him, and take him back to his bed.

This taught him that when he needed to go potty, all he had to do was signal, and I would take him out. This behavior transfered over to the daytime, and he was housebroken pretty quickly.

During the day when we weren't home, his crate,WITH THE DOOR OPEN, was put in a gated area, with papers at one end. Again, this allowed him to not soil his sleeping area.

This method has always worked for me, and I think makes for a happier dog AND owner!!
 

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We have Baxter for two weeks now (he's 3 months old) and we have always provided him with a dog-bed pillow in his crate. The crate is quite large and he just loves the soft bed. He has never given us any problems at night - always sleeps through. We do have a box with wee wee pads in it within his confined area just in case and he has used it on occasion overnight. He uses it during the day when we're at work but he has never gone in his bed.

As for the yard, we have two Labs and Baxter and we periodically go around with a pooper-scooper and clean up. There are no kids to step in it, but it does accumulate! :p
 

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I have a seperate area for my two, but they are allowed in the rest of the back yard when I'm home. I also give them free range in the winter, so the rest of the yard does get a little messy. They mostly go in their pen, but I do find a pile once in a while in the back yard.

This is funny that you mentioned this today. When I came home last night, one of them left a "present" at the back door.
 

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We had an ice storm last week, followed by snow this week -- lovely combination -- and my two tend to just go on the back deck so they don't have to wade out into the yard or try to navigate icy steps. Sigh. :blink: On the other hand, I wouldn't want to do that, either, so it's kind of hard to say anything to them about it. :lol:
 

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I have a problem. My kids adore Libby, but they are angry because Libby does her business in a high traffic area of the yard, the playground, go figure.[/b]
How old are your kids?

I know I'm going to sound like a crotchety old man here, aplogies in advance.

I shared yard work with my siblings, including poop patrol, from 7 or 8 years old until I moved out of my folks place.

Just my opinion, and it does depend on age/maturity factors with any kid, getting them to help with poop clean up might be a good way to go.
I'm just presenting this as an option, not trying to tell you how to raise your kids, I know that would be very presumptuous of me.
 

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How old are your kids?

I know I'm going to sound like a crotchety old man here, aplogies in advance.

I shared yard work with my siblings, including poop patrol, from 7 or 8 years old until I moved out of my folks place.

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I have a 7 yr old son, and a 5yr old daughter. She nags the most. But you gave me a great idea. It's time for them to help out a bit.

I think dogs have a natural instinct to not soil their sleeping area.

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That's what I thought until Libby came along. My golden never did that in his area, he would go in other places. But Libby doesn't mind sleeping in her wee wee, or right next to a turd, let alone eat it. I used to put large towels in her crate, but there is something different about this pillow. I think it's the fact that it belonged to my kids.
 

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I have a seperate area for my two, but they are allowed in the rest of the back yard when I'm home. I also give them free range in the winter, so the rest of the yard does get a little messy. They mostly go in their pen, but I do find a pile once in a while in the back yard.

This is funny that you mentioned this today. When I came home last night, one of them left a "present" at the back door.
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My husband and I are going to divide the yard. It's better for her to have her own area and little comfy house back there. Sometimes I have to go out for a couple of hours and I don't like the idea of leaving her in her crate all that time holding it if we can provide her with her own space. Normally, I take her everywhere with me, but there are places which unfortunately aren't pet friendly.
 

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I know some others have already broached the subject, but I was going to mention that in this house we have 3 children (ages 9, 12 and 13) and 3 dogs (the bassets are 2 years old and my mother's dog is 6) ... my children have been sharing the common yard area with animals since my mother got her dog (and before when I had a different dog) and especially now that we're all in the same house.

Anyway, I used to be the one out there with the scooper when the kids were younger, but once they got old enough to point it out and realize they didn't like stepping in it... then I figured they were old enough to help with the "Poop Patrol". At first they would walk the yard with me and point it out and I would be the one to pick it up.

Now they are considerably older though, the job has been becoming more and more their responsibility. Because I have the three kids they each take turns, they get their own specific day ... but the catch is, while one does the actual "patrol" afterward the other two get to walk the yard to check.

We found they actually did a better job that way, they find bits there's no way my mother or I would have complained about or in some cases even seen. *lol*

The two that do the checking have been known to go behind the cherry trees and under bushes looking for the tiniest bit to be able to say "You missed one over here!" *hehe* The thing is, then they know when it's their own turn they do a very good job otherwise the one they caught before will be the one to triumphantly yell "you missed one!".

Also we made it into a kind of a game. We made a "Poop Patrol" Badge with a vest and hat and bought a long handled scooper that has a bag attachment with a long handled shovel so they don't even have to get too close to the poops to scoop em up. Until we came up with a schedule for the kids they actually used to argue about who's turn it was ... they WANTED to do it. ("My turn!", "No! Mine!") Imagine the looks on neighbours faces hearing the kids arguing that way about scoopig poo! (Instead of "It's YOUR turn!, "No, yours!").

Anyway I guess what all this ramble was about was that in my oppinion, if they're old enough to notice it, they're old enough to help with it. *lol*

Although, I must admit we still did section off a bit of the side yard for a place to put the dogs while we're working in the gardens or if we have a lot of guests over for a bbq etc... also some parents when they bring their kids over get kind of nervous with three dogs that weigh about 65 pounds each running around, so as a curtesy we put the dogs in the side yard at times.

Oh, one other thing, when the kids do poop patrol they don't have to do the side yard, that's strictly "doggy area" ... and a benefit we noticed from that is over time the dogs seem to be getting the idea they can do their business in there... and there's been less and less in the main areas of the back yard because the dogs have been going in the side section themselves.

So you might find a benefit from sectioning off an area of the yard for the dogs as well as getting the kidlets to help with the upkeep of the main area of the yard. Personally I think it's good for them as well to help with everything that goes with owning an animal... they learn some responsibilities and realize pets aren't just fluffy critters for their amusement but actually require a good deal of care (other than just feeding).

Anyhow, sorry for the lengthy post *heh* Hope that helps a bit though.
 
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