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Bournes251 07-19-2018 08:54 AM

Crooked Front / Knuckling
 
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Hello All!

Our pup, Winchester, is around 1.5 yrs and lately, I've become more concerned about an issue he's been having with his front right leg. It's always been a bit crooked but around 8-9 months it got worse and it knuckles a bit now. He never has much trouble with it but he will occasionally get a little limp on that side if he's been playing hard all day with his neighborhood buddies. I asked our vet when we first noticed it and she said just make sure he's on a joint supplement and we would keep an eye on it. At his yearly checkup, I had her check it again and she said as long as it wasn't causing him any grief, we should let it be. However, I would like to get a good ortho to look at it as well to get a confirmation on that. A couple questions I have are, has anyone had experience with this? If so, did you do any type of surgery or let it be and what was the outcome of that in terms of lifespan, quality of life, etc? Basically, is the surgery worth the risk and cost. In the attached pictures it is a bit exaggerated as I tried to get him to sit like that so you could see it better. You can see how it is a bit unstable in certain positions but he's never had any issues tripping because of it, etc.

Sorry the pictures are sideways. I tried to rotate them but they keep turning that way (thanks iPhone).

Mikey T 07-19-2018 09:20 AM

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I am always more concerned with knuckling than bowing and direction the feet point. as knuckling points to lacticity in the ligature of the carpal (wrist) joint which general only gets worse over time. Given that it appears to bother him on occasion one non-invasive approach is an external support. https://www.mypetsbrace.com/dog-carpal-brace-front-leg

I have seen much worse that never seems to bother the dog, but you must make decision on how the individual dog reacts. It can be surgically corrected to a point and results are usually not perfect but sometimes the best solution.

Best agility basset ever at least in USDAA had a very crooked front see attached photo but did not knuckle never had a front end issue.


Mikey T 07-19-2018 10:16 AM

some previous thread on the subject

https://www.basset.net/boards/genera...formation.html

https://www.basset.net/boards/genera...surgery-2.html

https://www.basset.net/boards/genera...g-brace-2.html

https://www.basset.net/boards/introd...st-issues.html

Bournes251 07-19-2018 11:50 AM

Thanks
 
Thank you for the info! That is reassuring. Knuckling has not really been a problem for him. He's only shown symptoms of it one time a while back after he had played really hard for hours. Other than that, he seems fine with it other than it appearing unstable at times.

Do you have any recommendations in the Oklahoma/Kansas/Texas area for the best ortho that has basset knowledge? We have a couple here in Tulsa but all have very little basset experience to my knowledge. I would at least like to have them look at it and get it scanned just so we can make sure it's not going to cause him a lot of grief down the road.

FranksMum 07-20-2018 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bournes251 (Post 430687)

Do you have any recommendations in the Oklahoma/Kansas/Texas area for the best ortho that has basset knowledge? We have a couple here in Tulsa but all have very little basset experience to my knowledge. I would at least like to have them look at it and get it scanned just so we can make sure it's not going to cause him a lot of grief down the road.


I'll send you a PM re my friend in Texas who may have a contact to recommend. I'd just say that when you get that bowing, let alone the knuckling over, arthritis may well set in at some point down the road. My current buy-in Basset suffered from premature closure of the growth plates which resulted in the ulna growing on and causing too much turn out, even for a Basset. But not that degree of bowing or knuckling over. At the time he was just under a year and had we opted for surgery, it wouldn't have ended there - he'd had needed more as he was still growing.


Obviously what's going on with your lad is a fault. We have a vet here in the UK who specialises in correcting a mal-formed front like that but he's hugely expensive (and most of the dogs referred to him are insured!), but he does manage to straighten a leg like that. I've watched him (he has a TV programme) do many of these and believe me, the dogs are in pain before he works his magic.


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