'Dumping' Cat to Impact Hillary's campaign?

murraysmom · 10-22-2007, 01:01 PM

I am not endorsing any one in particular in this election: just thought this was an interesting article which discusses how America's love of animals could have impact on this candidates campaign:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303808,00.html

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"Once the presidency was over, there was no room for Socks anymore. After years of loyal service at the White House, the black and white cat was dumped on Betty Currie, Bill Clinton’s personal secretary, who also had an embarrassing clean-up role in the saga of his relationship with intern Monica Lewinsky.

Some believe the abandoned pet could now come between Hillary Clinton and her ambition to return to the White House as America's first female president.

Clinton's treatment of Socks cuts to the heart of the questions about her candidacy. Is she too cold and calculating to win the presidency? Or does it signify political invincibility by showing she is willing to deploy every weapon to get what she wants?

In the annals of human evil, off-loading a pet is nowhere near the top of the list", writes Caitlin Flanagan in the current issue of The Atlantic magazine. But neither is it dead last, and it is especially galling when said pet has been deployed for years as an all-purpose character reference.

Being Clinton, she also lectured readers that pets are an "adoption instead of an acquisition" and warned them to look out for their safety. (Buddy, the chocolate labrador in the Reagan White House, bounded into a road soon after leaving the White House and was promptly run over.)"

Betsy Iole · 10-22-2007, 02:44 PM

Let's limit this discussion to pet reliquishment/treatment/placement. There are plenty of other internet sites where folks can grind their respective political axes. <_<

murraysmom · 10-22-2007, 05:57 PM

OK- please feel free to delete this-

I honestly was not pushing an agenda when I posted this though, just thought it was interesting that a candidate's attitude towards pets would be considered a factor in a presidential election.

I'm old enough to remember the media frenzy when Lyndon Johnson picked one of his beagles up by it's ears, so maybe I shouldn't have been surprised by this.

Betsy Iole · 10-24-2007, 01:43 PM

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just thought it was interesting that a candidate's attitude towards pets would be considered a factor in a presidential election.[/b]

Then you'll probably find this of interest as well.

Romney's Cruel Canine Vacation

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Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws specifically prohibit anyone from carrying an animal "in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise, in an unnecessarily cruel or inhuman manner or in a way and manner which might endanger the animal carried thereon." An officer for the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded to a description of the situation saying "it's definitely something I'd want to check out." The officer, Nadia Branca, declined to give a definitive opinion on whether Romney broke the law but did note that it's against state law to have a dog in an open bed of a pick-up truck, and "if the dog was being carried in a way that endangers it, that would be illegal." And while it appears that the statute of limitations has probably passed, Stacey Wolf, attorney and legislative director for the ASPCA, said "even if it turns out to not be against the law at the time, in the district, we'd hope that people would use common sense...Any manner of transporting a dog that places the animal in serious danger is something that we'd think is inappropriate...I can't speak to the accuracy of the case, but it raises concerns about the judgment used in this particular situation.[/b]

murraysmom · 10-24-2007, 05:05 PM

It's bizarre for anyone to think transporting an Irish Setter in a crate strapped to the roof of a station wagon is OK- for 12 hours no less!! And just when I thought I couldn't be shocked or surprised by the things people do to animals- jeesh!

Betsy Iole · 10-24-2007, 06:02 PM

Both stories suggest that simply owning a pet doesn't necessarily qualify someone as a "dog person" or "cat person".

10-22-2007, 02:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Betsy Iole Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 4,901	Let's limit this discussion to pet reliquishment/treatment/placement. There are plenty of other internet sites where folks can grind their respective political axes. <_< __________________ Betsy, Mom to CH Bugle Bay's Sin City Caper UD RE TD BHCA-VC CH Bugle Bay's Sin City Cuppa Joe TD CH Bugle Bay's AllUCanEat Buffet CDX RN TDX NA CGC BHCA-VCX, 1996-2008 "Bugsie" UDX NA NAJ CGC, 1991-2006

10-24-2007, 06:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Betsy Iole Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 4,901	Both stories suggest that simply owning a pet doesn't necessarily qualify someone as a "dog person" or "cat person". __________________ Betsy, Mom to CH Bugle Bay's Sin City Caper UD RE TD BHCA-VC CH Bugle Bay's Sin City Cuppa Joe TD CH Bugle Bay's AllUCanEat Buffet CDX RN TDX NA CGC BHCA-VCX, 1996-2008 "Bugsie" UDX NA NAJ CGC, 1991-2006

10-22-2007, 01:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
murraysmom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: southcentral Pa. Posts: 2,216	I am not endorsing any one in particular in this election: just thought this was an interesting article which discusses how America's love of animals could have impact on this candidates campaign: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303808,00.html Quote: "Once the presidency was over, there was no room for Socks anymore. After years of loyal service at the White House, the black and white cat was dumped on Betty Currie, Bill Clinton’s personal secretary, who also had an embarrassing clean-up role in the saga of his relationship with intern Monica Lewinsky. Some believe the abandoned pet could now come between Hillary Clinton and her ambition to return to the White House as America's first female president. Clinton's treatment of Socks cuts to the heart of the questions about her candidacy. Is she too cold and calculating to win the presidency? Or does it signify political invincibility by showing she is willing to deploy every weapon to get what she wants? In the annals of human evil, off-loading a pet is nowhere near the top of the list", writes Caitlin Flanagan in the current issue of The Atlantic magazine. But neither is it dead last, and it is especially galling when said pet has been deployed for years as an all-purpose character reference. Being Clinton, she also lectured readers that pets are an "adoption instead of an acquisition" and warned them to look out for their safety. (Buddy, the chocolate labrador in the Reagan White House, bounded into a road soon after leaving the White House and was promptly run over.)"

10-22-2007, 05:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
murraysmom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: southcentral Pa. Posts: 2,216	OK- please feel free to delete this- I honestly was not pushing an agenda when I posted this though, just thought it was interesting that a candidate's attitude towards pets would be considered a factor in a presidential election. I'm old enough to remember the media frenzy when Lyndon Johnson picked one of his beagles up by it's ears, so maybe I shouldn't have been surprised by this.

10-24-2007, 05:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
murraysmom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: southcentral Pa. Posts: 2,216	It's bizarre for anyone to think transporting an Irish Setter in a crate strapped to the roof of a station wagon is OK- for 12 hours no less!! And just when I thought I couldn't be shocked or surprised by the things people do to animals- jeesh!

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