For the female two leggers owned by a male basset!!

BrunosParents28 · 02-09-2007, 11:14 AM

Bruno is going to be 5 mths old at the end of the month and Ive noticed his behavior starting to change...Hes a very affectionate dog and I love that about him but if ANYONE else is home he will not leave me alone. He will follow me everywhere, bathroom, bed, and no matter where I sit and how many times I transplant my butt into a different chair or room he is up my butt. He also doesnt seem to like it if I would sit with someone else, and its even become a pain in the butt at night with David gets home from work. If we let Bruno upstairs to sleep with us, which I do because he barks at every noise and me being home alone with two children find that somewhat comforting, when David comes to bed Bruno MUST be in the middle of us on my pillow and that wont change. If Dave tries to move to snuggle with me he better forget it cuz Bruno is weaseling his way into the middle...I was wondering if any other women out there had the same type of issue with their dog. I dont know if its a bad issue yet because Brunos not aggressive about it he just throws his weight around to his advantage and is so stubborn that we eventually just give into him. I hope this is just good ole basset quirkyness....

Aruuuu · 02-09-2007, 11:39 AM

This 'quirk' could get out of hand. YOU are boss, not Bruno, but you're letting him think he rules. You should stop letting him on your bed. Move his crate/bed into your room and let him sleep there. That's his place, your place is your bed. If he cries or barks, eventually he'll stop. At this stage of the game, I expect he will make some noise.....

emmasmom · 02-09-2007, 12:32 PM

My Emma is like that sort of with me...but obviously, she's a girl

But if my hubby comes and kisses me while Emma is on my lap...she pushes her nose up to both of our faces while we're kissing and licks and licks and licks...it's very cute. We do it on purpose just to get a reaction from her :P

She's very jealous though....if he is sitting by me on the couch, she'll sit right in front of us on the floor staring at him like she's saying ummm...yeah...I'm supposed to be sitting there. It's funny.

murraysmom · 02-09-2007, 12:53 PM

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This 'quirk' could get out of hand. YOU are boss, not Bruno, but you're letting him think he rules. You should stop letting him on your bed. Move his crate/bed into your room and let him sleep there. That's his place, your place is your bed. If he cries or barks, eventually he'll stop. At this stage of the game, I expect he will make some noise.....[/b]

I have to agree with Aruuuu. It may seem flattering and cute now, but it could escalate into aggressive guarding behavior. Best to nip it in the bud.

Rubydoo · 02-09-2007, 03:42 PM

When Ruby's daddy and I are sitting side by side on the couch, Ruby liked to come over for a hug. She's not allowed on the furniture so we assure her and she goes back to her bed.

Janice

Baxter Basset · 02-09-2007, 04:05 PM

I really don't think you should encourage him. It may be cute now, but when he's all grown up and 40-50 pounds, you may not like him in your bed and it may be too late to change him. He may even get mean over it

. I would nip it now, before he gets much older. Don't let him take over your house.

Mikey T · 02-09-2007, 09:25 PM

"I have to agree with Aruuuu. It may seem flattering and cute now, but it could escalate into aggressive guarding behavior. Best to nip it in the bud. "

huh? and your straight a student could grow up to be a serial killer.

People completely misunderstand dog heirarchy ( and there is considerable debate that it even exists)

1./ there has never been any document existence that a dog or group of dogs consider humans as dogs or part of the pack. Were different species for crying out loud. For that matter there is non evidence for interspecies hieracrhies for that matter.

2. Dogs are not capable of abstract thought. They do not conciously seek higher status. There status is what there status is.

3> So called status Dominance reduction exercise (feed the dog last, no dogs on bed or furniture, human first thiugh dooeway etc.) have not proven to reduce aggression. see Debunking the Dominance Myth

4. Dog do what works for them. He follows you around "he is up my butt" because it gets him the attention he wants. It is an unconciously rewarded behavior same as being push, rude and obnoxious. The more your reward a behavior the more you get. If you like the behavior the nothing is wrong. If you find the behavior rudxe and obnoxious stop rewarding it.

You Get What You Reinforce, Not What You (Necessarily) Want

Competing Reinforcers

Rewarding Non-Behavior

not because the dog "may become aggressive" but because the behavior is rude and obnoxious

Beverly Anne · 02-09-2007, 11:54 PM

Mikey, you are so right. I have to confess to having spoiled Francis a lot and now after 8 years he has a lot of behaviors that I wish I had not allowed but it's been going on so long I just live with it. He hogs the bed and the couch and I have to fight for my space. It was cute when he was a pup but now it's a bit of a problem. I'm single and it's been just Francis and I for the last 8 years and he's pretty possessive.
Francis is blind now but when he could see he used to get agitated when anyone got too close to me. He never got violent or vicious but he WHINED, Lord how he whined!

Maggie's Mommy · 02-10-2007, 07:41 AM

I spoiled Maggie Mae (AT

terribly when she was a puppy. I gave into her every wish. When she got older, she became very hard to deal with at times. I do regret some of the behaviors I let her get away with. When I got Rusty & Stickers I vowed not to repeat those same mistakes. One year later, I'm happy to say I haven't. I love them to death, but they have rules. They are such a pleasure to live with because of the rules I've set up. They know what's expected of them and they do it. I hope to have them around for many years like I did my precious MM, so it just makes it easier on all of us if right from the start them know the drill! Rusty is especially attached to me. He follows me everywhere I let him. I want him to enjoy being with me but not "need" to be with me. I don't feed into this behavior. His adorble face is very hard to resist and wears most people down. But I know if I let me be a Mommy's boy, he's just become like velcro. Stickers is more independent. She is the one that he follows most of the time. She doesn't seem to mind and they seem to have their relationship figured out. I'm so glad I have both of them to keep each other busy!!!!

faysie · 02-10-2007, 08:49 AM

My little Dixie is like a piece of velcro! She is all over me, since they day she came to live with us. Since she was a rescue/foster, I allowed it. I still do. However, she is not on the furniture or the bed. I've stuck to the House Rules that we had established with Belvedere from day one. Dixie was not pleased and she'll still puts her paws on the sofa or the side of the bed, just hoping. I don't give in.

As far as dogs seeking higher status ...I've been dealing with unique situation with Dixie and Belly. She has absolutely and completely dominated him at every opportunity. I'm calling this dominance because I don't know another word to use. She must be in front ...must be first ...must be closer to me. When he's getting lovies and attention, she will charge in and literally put herself in between Belly and I. I discourage this and I'll reach right over her and finish petting Belly, as she whines and pushes against me. I will not give in to this but Belly does ...he just backs up and let's her have the space.

When we walk the dogs, they are on separate leashes, Belly with my husband and Dixie with me. It's all good as long as we stay a few steps ahead of Steve and Belvedere. If they get ahead, she'll race to get in front of them ...and then she'll relax and sniff around without pulling. All the while, watching to make sure she is in front.

What is this behavior called? It's not aggressive ...she's not agressive. I was told by her foster mom that she is "pleasantly assertive" and that's a good way to describe her. And I can certainly say that Belvedere is pleasantly submissive to her. I have decided it is what it is. She will not have highter status over me but it seems to work for her with other dogs.

Opinions and ideas are welcome.

02-09-2007, 11:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
BrunosParents28 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 55	Bruno is going to be 5 mths old at the end of the month and Ive noticed his behavior starting to change...Hes a very affectionate dog and I love that about him but if ANYONE else is home he will not leave me alone. He will follow me everywhere, bathroom, bed, and no matter where I sit and how many times I transplant my butt into a different chair or room he is up my butt. He also doesnt seem to like it if I would sit with someone else, and its even become a pain in the butt at night with David gets home from work. If we let Bruno upstairs to sleep with us, which I do because he barks at every noise and me being home alone with two children find that somewhat comforting, when David comes to bed Bruno MUST be in the middle of us on my pillow and that wont change. If Dave tries to move to snuggle with me he better forget it cuz Bruno is weaseling his way into the middle...I was wondering if any other women out there had the same type of issue with their dog. I dont know if its a bad issue yet because Brunos not aggressive about it he just throws his weight around to his advantage and is so stubborn that we eventually just give into him. I hope this is just good ole basset quirkyness.... __________________ Arrrrooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Bruno Beazley...My hunka hunka houndie!!!

02-09-2007, 11:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
Aruuuu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central MA, USA Posts: 773	This 'quirk' could get out of hand. YOU are boss, not Bruno, but you're letting him think he rules. You should stop letting him on your bed. Move his crate/bed into your room and let him sleep there. That's his place, your place is your bed. If he cries or barks, eventually he'll stop. At this stage of the game, I expect he will make some noise..... __________________ If stress were exercise, I'd be in great shape!

02-09-2007, 03:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rubydoo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,681	When Ruby's daddy and I are sitting side by side on the couch, Ruby liked to come over for a hug. She's not allowed on the furniture so we assure her and she goes back to her bed. Janice __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...w/IMG_1340.jpg Take a basset hound to lunch today! --Bassets rule....and drool!

02-09-2007, 11:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Beverly Anne Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston MA Posts: 737	Mikey, you are so right. I have to confess to having spoiled Francis a lot and now after 8 years he has a lot of behaviors that I wish I had not allowed but it's been going on so long I just live with it. He hogs the bed and the couch and I have to fight for my space. It was cute when he was a pup but now it's a bit of a problem. I'm single and it's been just Francis and I for the last 8 years and he's pretty possessive. Francis is blind now but when he could see he used to get agitated when anyone got too close to me. He never got violent or vicious but he WHINED, Lord how he whined! __________________ Francis's Bevy

02-09-2007, 12:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
emmasmom Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 538	My Emma is like that sort of with me...but obviously, she's a girl But if my hubby comes and kisses me while Emma is on my lap...she pushes her nose up to both of our faces while we're kissing and licks and licks and licks...it's very cute. We do it on purpose just to get a reaction from her :P She's very jealous though....if he is sitting by me on the couch, she'll sit right in front of us on the floor staring at him like she's saying ummm...yeah...I'm supposed to be sitting there. It's funny.

02-09-2007, 04:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Baxter Basset Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 144	I really don't think you should encourage him. It may be cute now, but when he's all grown up and 40-50 pounds, you may not like him in your bed and it may be too late to change him. He may even get mean over it . I would nip it now, before he gets much older. Don't let him take over your house.

02-09-2007, 09:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mikey T Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: West Warrwick, RI Posts: 7,729	"I have to agree with Aruuuu. It may seem flattering and cute now, but it could escalate into aggressive guarding behavior. Best to nip it in the bud. " huh? and your straight a student could grow up to be a serial killer. People completely misunderstand dog heirarchy ( and there is considerable debate that it even exists) 1./ there has never been any document existence that a dog or group of dogs consider humans as dogs or part of the pack. Were different species for crying out loud. For that matter there is non evidence for interspecies hieracrhies for that matter. 2. Dogs are not capable of abstract thought. They do not conciously seek higher status. There status is what there status is. 3> So called status Dominance reduction exercise (feed the dog last, no dogs on bed or furniture, human first thiugh dooeway etc.) have not proven to reduce aggression. see Debunking the Dominance Myth 4. Dog do what works for them. He follows you around "he is up my butt" because it gets him the attention he wants. It is an unconciously rewarded behavior same as being push, rude and obnoxious. The more your reward a behavior the more you get. If you like the behavior the nothing is wrong. If you find the behavior rudxe and obnoxious stop rewarding it. You Get What You Reinforce, Not What You (Necessarily) Want Competing Reinforcers Rewarding Non-Behavior not because the dog "may become aggressive" but because the behavior is rude and obnoxious

02-10-2007, 07:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
Maggie's Mommy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 775	I spoiled Maggie Mae (AT terribly when she was a puppy. I gave into her every wish. When she got older, she became very hard to deal with at times. I do regret some of the behaviors I let her get away with. When I got Rusty & Stickers I vowed not to repeat those same mistakes. One year later, I'm happy to say I haven't. I love them to death, but they have rules. They are such a pleasure to live with because of the rules I've set up. They know what's expected of them and they do it. I hope to have them around for many years like I did my precious MM, so it just makes it easier on all of us if right from the start them know the drill! Rusty is especially attached to me. He follows me everywhere I let him. I want him to enjoy being with me but not "need" to be with me. I don't feed into this behavior. His adorble face is very hard to resist and wears most people down. But I know if I let me be a Mommy's boy, he's just become like velcro. Stickers is more independent. She is the one that he follows most of the time. She doesn't seem to mind and they seem to have their relationship figured out. I'm so glad I have both of them to keep each other busy!!!!

02-10-2007, 08:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
faysie Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 360	My little Dixie is like a piece of velcro! She is all over me, since they day she came to live with us. Since she was a rescue/foster, I allowed it. I still do. However, she is not on the furniture or the bed. I've stuck to the House Rules that we had established with Belvedere from day one. Dixie was not pleased and she'll still puts her paws on the sofa or the side of the bed, just hoping. I don't give in. As far as dogs seeking higher status ...I've been dealing with unique situation with Dixie and Belly. She has absolutely and completely dominated him at every opportunity. I'm calling this dominance because I don't know another word to use. She must be in front ...must be first ...must be closer to me. When he's getting lovies and attention, she will charge in and literally put herself in between Belly and I. I discourage this and I'll reach right over her and finish petting Belly, as she whines and pushes against me. I will not give in to this but Belly does ...he just backs up and let's her have the space. When we walk the dogs, they are on separate leashes, Belly with my husband and Dixie with me. It's all good as long as we stay a few steps ahead of Steve and Belvedere. If they get ahead, she'll race to get in front of them ...and then she'll relax and sniff around without pulling. All the while, watching to make sure she is in front. What is this behavior called? It's not aggressive ...she's not agressive. I was told by her foster mom that she is "pleasantly assertive" and that's a good way to describe her. And I can certainly say that Belvedere is pleasantly submissive to her. I have decided it is what it is. She will not have highter status over me but it seems to work for her with other dogs. Opinions and ideas are welcome.

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