Blue Buffalo Fish & Sweet Potato Food

Maggie's Mommy · 12-29-2006, 01:28 PM

I've decided to do a switch with the kids food. I was talking to their breeder today and she was telling me how much she likes this food. Her hounds love it and she loves the ingredient list. I called Petsmart and they carry it. It comes in a 6 lb, 15 lb & 30 lb size. The 30 lb. is $40. I'm paying "almost" that much for the Eukanuba. I'm getting a small bag and will start the switch. Here's their website if anyone wants to read up on the food. Also, anyone have any input???

www.bluebuff.com

Vision · 12-29-2006, 04:59 PM

When your dog food sounds like it's coming from a trendy restaurant, it must be good

pinehawk · 12-29-2006, 05:33 PM

i would rather feed purina hi-pro than this food.i feel the protein and fat levels are to low.i don't like the fish based formula's myself at all. i'm not a fan of Hi-Pro either.but i do feed Purina Pro Plan.the thing with the fish is this,there is a Whitefish,but i think they are using by-catch from the fishing industry. if they use farm raised fish they are full of chemicals to make them grow bigger faster so they can get to market sooner,if they are wild ocean caught fish what is the mercury levels like,they now warn pregnant women to not eat canned tuna fish more than once a week i think ,because of mercury. the bottm line is feed what your dog does good on and what you can afford. i use the Performance blends and have good results but my dogs are active hunting dogs,a 26%protein 18% fat chicken based feed i think is the best type of food for most dogs.if you do feed this fish based stuff let us know how your dogs are doing on it after 3-4 months,i would be interested in learning your findings. thanks Billy

murraysmom · 12-29-2006, 05:54 PM

Murray has been on Wellness Fish and Sweet Potato for 3 1/2 years because he is allergic to beef, chicken, lamb- you name it. He's done well on it- I mix canned pumpkin with it, brown rice, yogurt, salmon or tuna when we have it. It's $28 for a 15 pound bag here.

mgbrown66 · 12-29-2006, 08:59 PM

Let us know how it goes. I'm intrigued by that food as well. Let me know if it changes their breath at all. I'd tried a fish based food before and it was smelly breath city!

Not that its usually great smelling to begin with, you know?

Mikey T · 12-30-2006, 12:34 AM

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. I was talking to their breeder today and she was telling me how much she likes this food. Her hounds love it and she loves the ingredient list.
www.bluebuff.com
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A dog food that contains garlic and is touted as containing garlic one has to wonder. While it is unlikely there is enough garlic to cause a significant problem Onions more so than garlic are linked to some serious health problem in dogs and are best avoided

Feeding Onions/Garlic -

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There have been reports of anemia, dermatitis and asthmatic attacks after the long term feeding of garlic and garlic extracts to dogs.

...3. Hematologic changes associated with the appearance of eccentrocytes after intragastric administration of garlic extract to dogs.

Lee KW, Yamato O, Tajima M, Kuraoka M, Omae S, Maede Y.

Am J Vet Res 2000 Nov 61(11):1446-50

Department of Veterinary Clinical Sciences, Graduate School of Veterinary Medicine, Hokkaido University, Sapporo, Japan.

...CONCLUSIONS AND CLINICAL RELEVANCE: The constituents of garlic have the potential to oxidize erythrocyte membranes and hemoglobin, inducing hemolysis associated with the appearance of eccentrocytes in dogs. Thus, foods containing garlic should not be fed to dogs. Eccentrocytosis appears to be a major diagnostic feature of garlic-induced hemolysis in dogs.
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murraysmom · 12-30-2006, 08:45 PM

I copied this information from the Wellness site:

"Wellness Fish & Sweet Potato Dog Food:
One of the most allergen-free foods available for your pet. A unique formula of White Fish and Sweet Potatoes with an optimal balance of Omega 6 and Omega 3 for a healthy skin and coat.
Ingredients:
White Fish, Ground Barley, Rye Flour, Menhaden Fish Meal, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Canola Oil (preserved with Rosemary, Vitamin C & E), Flax Seed, Beta-Carotene, Potassium Chloride, Zinc Proteinate (a chelated source of Zinc), Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Proteinate (a chelated source of Copper), and more."

Unlike the Blue Buffalo Fish and Sweet Potato, it doesn't contain garlic. For Murray, who is allergic to most other protein sources, it's been great. As I said, I also make a kind of stew to add to this with fish,brown rice,pumpkin, yogurt, etc.

And to answer the fish breath question: no, it doesn't make Murray smell fishy.

Betsy Iole · 12-30-2006, 08:52 PM

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As I said, I also make a kind of stew to add to this with fish,brown rice,pumpkin, yogurt, etc.[/b]

When I read your earlier post, I thought it sounded so good I'd eat it!

Maggie's Mommy · 12-30-2006, 09:01 PM

Thanks for all your input. I have some thinking to do!!! I'll keep you posted!

Wishing all of you a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maggie's Mommy · 01-02-2007, 01:24 PM

This is the email I got to my questions to the Blue Buffalo Dog Food Co.

Thank you for taking the time out to write us. And thank you for your
interest in BLUE. In response to your email, in
> numerous clinical studies, garlic has been clinically proven to have
> beneficial health properties for animals such as a potent antioxidant,
> anti-cancer, antibacterial and viral, antiseptic and as an
> immunostimulant.
>
> In addition it has been proven to lower cholesterol levels, lower
> blood pressure, help control diarrhea and is a sources of beneficial
> vitamins, minerals and important phytonutrients.
>
> While numerous chat rooms and written papers and articles are
> discussing the potential toxicity effects with onions (and now with
> garlic) these are really anecdotal discussions and there is no
> definitive proof that a specific dose of garlic that is toxic for dogs.
>
> The real truth is that many food derived nutrients that are fed at
> high levels can be toxic. The best example is vitamin A, an essential
> and beneficial vitamin will cause toxicity if fed at high levels.
>
> Another example is the feeding of baby food to cats that contains
> onion powder, which has resulted in anemia. It is believed that
> processed powdered onions contains more concentrated levels of toxic
> ingredients such as sulfoxides which can lead to fragility of the red
blood cells.
>
> The important point to remember is anemia that is secondary to feeding
> onions (and garlic) is totally dose dependent. The more onions or
> garlic that is fed the more possibility of problems. One study that
> incriminated onions as the cause of anemia said that a 50-pound dog
> would have to eating 6-8 ounces of onions/day.
>
> Blue Buffalos formulas are made with fresh garlic because fresh garlic
> has more of the naturally occurring phyto-nutrients, antioxidants and
> beneficial nutrients than other more processed forms. More
> importantly, the levels of garlic selected for Blue Buffalo's
> formulations is the level that has been researched and tested in
> thousands of animals over the past 20 years and found to be beneficial
> for the health and well being of animals.

I hope this helps clear up your concerns. Please feel free to contact me
with any further questions.

12-29-2006, 04:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vision Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 289	When your dog food sounds like it's coming from a trendy restaurant, it must be good __________________ Marquis de Lafayette brought Basset Hounds to the United States as a gift to George Washington

12-29-2006, 05:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
pinehawk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Cassville,N.J. Posts: 936	i would rather feed purina hi-pro than this food.i feel the protein and fat levels are to low.i don't like the fish based formula's myself at all. i'm not a fan of Hi-Pro either.but i do feed Purina Pro Plan.the thing with the fish is this,there is a Whitefish,but i think they are using by-catch from the fishing industry. if they use farm raised fish they are full of chemicals to make them grow bigger faster so they can get to market sooner,if they are wild ocean caught fish what is the mercury levels like,they now warn pregnant women to not eat canned tuna fish more than once a week i think ,because of mercury. the bottm line is feed what your dog does good on and what you can afford. i use the Performance blends and have good results but my dogs are active hunting dogs,a 26%protein 18% fat chicken based feed i think is the best type of food for most dogs.if you do feed this fish based stuff let us know how your dogs are doing on it after 3-4 months,i would be interested in learning your findings. thanks Billy __________________ </font>[list]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

12-29-2006, 01:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Maggie's Mommy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 775	I've decided to do a switch with the kids food. I was talking to their breeder today and she was telling me how much she likes this food. Her hounds love it and she loves the ingredient list. I called Petsmart and they carry it. It comes in a 6 lb, 15 lb & 30 lb size. The 30 lb. is $40. I'm paying "almost" that much for the Eukanuba. I'm getting a small bag and will start the switch. Here's their website if anyone wants to read up on the food. Also, anyone have any input??? www.bluebuff.com

12-29-2006, 05:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
murraysmom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: southcentral Pa. Posts: 2,236	Murray has been on Wellness Fish and Sweet Potato for 3 1/2 years because he is allergic to beef, chicken, lamb- you name it. He's done well on it- I mix canned pumpkin with it, brown rice, yogurt, salmon or tuna when we have it. It's $28 for a 15 pound bag here.

12-29-2006, 08:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
mgbrown66 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 316	Let us know how it goes. I'm intrigued by that food as well. Let me know if it changes their breath at all. I'd tried a fish based food before and it was smelly breath city! Not that its usually great smelling to begin with, you know?

12-30-2006, 08:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
murraysmom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: southcentral Pa. Posts: 2,236	I copied this information from the Wellness site: "Wellness Fish & Sweet Potato Dog Food: One of the most allergen-free foods available for your pet. A unique formula of White Fish and Sweet Potatoes with an optimal balance of Omega 6 and Omega 3 for a healthy skin and coat. Ingredients: White Fish, Ground Barley, Rye Flour, Menhaden Fish Meal, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Canola Oil (preserved with Rosemary, Vitamin C & E), Flax Seed, Beta-Carotene, Potassium Chloride, Zinc Proteinate (a chelated source of Zinc), Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Proteinate (a chelated source of Copper), and more." Unlike the Blue Buffalo Fish and Sweet Potato, it doesn't contain garlic. For Murray, who is allergic to most other protein sources, it's been great. As I said, I also make a kind of stew to add to this with fish,brown rice,pumpkin, yogurt, etc. And to answer the fish breath question: no, it doesn't make Murray smell fishy.

12-30-2006, 09:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
Maggie's Mommy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 775	Thanks for all your input. I have some thinking to do!!! I'll keep you posted! Wishing all of you a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-02-2007, 01:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
Maggie's Mommy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 775	This is the email I got to my questions to the Blue Buffalo Dog Food Co. Thank you for taking the time out to write us. And thank you for your interest in BLUE. In response to your email, in > numerous clinical studies, garlic has been clinically proven to have > beneficial health properties for animals such as a potent antioxidant, > anti-cancer, antibacterial and viral, antiseptic and as an > immunostimulant. > > In addition it has been proven to lower cholesterol levels, lower > blood pressure, help control diarrhea and is a sources of beneficial > vitamins, minerals and important phytonutrients. > > While numerous chat rooms and written papers and articles are > discussing the potential toxicity effects with onions (and now with > garlic) these are really anecdotal discussions and there is no > definitive proof that a specific dose of garlic that is toxic for dogs. > > The real truth is that many food derived nutrients that are fed at > high levels can be toxic. The best example is vitamin A, an essential > and beneficial vitamin will cause toxicity if fed at high levels. > > Another example is the feeding of baby food to cats that contains > onion powder, which has resulted in anemia. It is believed that > processed powdered onions contains more concentrated levels of toxic > ingredients such as sulfoxides which can lead to fragility of the red blood cells. > > The important point to remember is anemia that is secondary to feeding > onions (and garlic) is totally dose dependent. The more onions or > garlic that is fed the more possibility of problems. One study that > incriminated onions as the cause of anemia said that a 50-pound dog > would have to eating 6-8 ounces of onions/day. > > Blue Buffalos formulas are made with fresh garlic because fresh garlic > has more of the naturally occurring phyto-nutrients, antioxidants and > beneficial nutrients than other more processed forms. More > importantly, the levels of garlic selected for Blue Buffalo's > formulations is the level that has been researched and tested in > thousands of animals over the past 20 years and found to be beneficial > for the health and well being of animals. I hope this helps clear up your concerns. Please feel free to contact me with any further questions.

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