Not sure how to handle this? Advice needed - Page 3

FVBassets · 04-14-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Shortstack1114

".... I understand that neutering has no bearing on this specific behavior problem. The point that I was trying to make is that it seems like they put more weight in having a "show dog." What if it was a different problem, that neutering would fix...would having a "show dog" still be more important than fixing the problem?

If he needed to be neutered to save his life, I would, of course do it. I stated that he was a show dog, not because i place more importance on that, but to head off the the comments about neutered dogs being more docile, and about how a "responsible" dog owner would have their dogs neutered. I do think that pet dogs should be spayed/neutered and that backyard breeders should be put out of business etc etc.

I enjoy showing my dogs, but I do not value my show dogs over my pets. I love each one of them, and outside of the show ring, they are treated the same.

Like I said, this is a new issue with him. I want to stop it before it progresses.

Soundtrack · 04-14-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shortstack1114

"nuetering is only helpful with behavioral issue related to sex hormones, ie marking, same sex dog agggression and some wandering etc. For things that are not sex hormone related it has no effect .

Resource Guarding is not sex hormone related so it will have no effect that simple."

One last thing and I really will shut up, I promise. I understand that neutering has no bearing on this specific behavior problem. The point that I was trying to make is that it seems like they put more weight in having a "show dog." What if it was a different problem, that neutering would fix...would having a "show dog" still be more important than fixing the problem?

Depends. First of all, neutering is permanent, so if there are other options to be tried that might be successful I want to try those before performing surgery that may or may not make a difference, especially if managemrnt can be practiced in the meantime. Also, his being a "show dog" may be part of an agreement with the breeder or a co-owner - the poster may not be at liberty to neuter the dog without consulting with another party first.

Speaking of which, has the breeder been consulted in this matter? They may have suggestions.

Soundtrack · 04-14-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FVBassets

I stated that he was a show dog, not because i place more importance on that, but to head off the the comments about neutered dogs being more docile, and about how a "responsible" dog owner would have their dogs neutered.

That occured to me as well. Frequently the first suggestion for any behavior issue is to neuter the dog, as if it were some sort of brain surgery or magic remedy that fixes all things.

FVBassets · 04-14-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundtrack

Speaking of which, has the breeder been consulted in this matter? They may have suggestions.

Yes, we have been speaking quite a bit about it. She was quite surprised by it. She had some suggestions, and we are going to go see her ( with him) tomorrow.

As a side note, last night he swiped my husband's wallet off the counter. When I went in the kitchen, he looked at me so guilty, and I reached down and just took it from him.
No problems.

Soundtrack · 04-14-2012, 10:19 PM

Hope you rewarded him!

Mikey T · 04-14-2012, 10:28 PM

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When I went in the kitchen, he looked at me so guilty,

Guulity dog look Myth

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Whether the dogs' demeanor included elements of the "guilty look" had little to do with whether the dogs had actually eaten the forbidden treat or not.

Dogs looked most "guilty" if they were admonished by their owners for eating the treat. In fact, dogs that had been obedient and had not eaten the treat, but were scolded by their (misinformed) owners, looked more "guilty" than those that had, in fact, eaten the treat.

Thus the dog's guilty look is a response to the owner's behavior, and not necessarily indicative of any appreciation of its own misdeeds.

FVBassets · 04-15-2012, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikey T

Guulity dog look Myth

Haha I know he wasn't really feeling guilty, but it made me feel better to think he did. LOL.
Yes he got a big reward for letting me take the wallet! And he has not left my side all day. He is being my big soft boy again.

Oh, and I didn't yell or raise my voice to him. I just walked over and took it. When he let me take it, then I told him he was a good boy, and he got his reward.

Mikey T · 04-15-2012, 01:23 PM

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When he let me take it, then I told him he was a good boy, and he got his reward.

what you should of done is removed the valueable contents of the wallet and let him have it. Sort of kills two birds of one stone
1. lets the dog know sometimes at least it get what he gave up back
2. teaches hubby a leason about leaving the wallet where the dog can get it.

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