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[A reminder that posts on the Politics Forum must be signed with first and last names, unless you already use your real name as your user name.]
AKC is exploring the feasibility of launching a referral service for breeders of AKC registered puppies on their website. Tentative plans are to allow commercial kennels, as well as responsible breeders, to avail themselves of this service. This plan was mentioned at the most recent AKC Quarterly Delegates Meeting. Barbara Wicklund, delegate from the Basset Hound Club of America, requested clarification. The full minutes of this meeting can be downloaded here. Here is the pertinent exchange. Quote:
__________________________________________________ ___________ Forwarded with permission to cross post............ I want to update you on the progression of AKC Delegate chat line discussions which have gone on between me and at least two of the AKC Board of Directors regarding the fancy's overwhelming objection to the AKC instituting its online puppy sales racket. An interesting thing happens on our Delegate chat line, when you state an opinion which is contrary to what the Board members want to hear, you are censored. I had this happen a couple of days ago in a rather benign exchange with Mrs. Schaefer as she was trying to convince us that the real reason why the AKC is doing this is to educate all of the puppy buying public about the virtues of well bred puppies coming from discriminating breeders. I merely said that that was complete nonsense, the AKC Board has no such lofty goals, that this is all about making money and nothing else, and that the Board of Directors should just go ahead and admit this. This message was censored by the moderator, who is controlled by the Board. I then gave the moderator a brief lecture on my First Amendment rights, told her I was a lawyer, I fought for people's rights in the courtroom every day, took my Constitutionally guaranteed rights extremely seriously, and was not going to tolerate anyone censoring my words, my opinions. I then asked her to forward my post to the list. It eventually showed up on the list. This morning, after receiving yet a couple more rather inane posts from the powers that be defending this brilliant idea, I went to the Hunte Corporation's website, out of curiosity. If you click on the link which says "pick a puppy" - the site jumps immediately to our AKC website section describing the different recognized breeds. Andrew Hunte is a clever business man, and he has duped the AKC'S Board of Directors into providing him with a wonderful outlet to sell his mass produced puppies. So, there you have it, the AKC, in its never ending lust for money, will now be helping the largest mass producer of puppies in the world to sell his produce. Lisa Summers Delegate Grand River Kennel Club Painesville, Ohio NCM Gordon Setters Concord, Ohio __________________________ The message from Lisa Summers is right on target. Dennis Sprung tried to slip past the delegates in Nashville that AKC is going to "help" puppy buyers contact breeders. We all thought he meant AKC was going to link with parent clubs, giving enhanced visibility to their respective "litter listings" and breeder referral people. Luckily, the delegate from the Basset Hound Club of America was apparently more suspicious, and asked for clarification. It was then that we learned that AKC was planning to list any AKC-paper- eligible puppy, even those from puppy mills! The delegates erupted with a negative outburst, and the Delegate List has been buzzing with outrage from delegates. Couple of logistical updates: The word" is that an AKC staff member, an executive within the Registration Dept., is the moving force behind this miserable and misguided initiative--and the Board is going to be discussing it this month. I have urged my parent club to write immediately, lodging the strongest protest possible. The plan is abhorrent, and undermines everything conscientious hobby breeders have worked for over these many years! All breeder referral folks, myself included, spend hundreds of hours on the phone with prospective puppy buyers, trying to educate them about the right way to research and purchase a puppy. As some breeder referral people have said: "Why should we bother any more???!!!" So now AKC is going to help Andrew Hunte sell the 85,000 puppies he '"processes" each year? We all know the deplorable conditions these puppies come out of, and even worse is the suffering of the brood bitches and stud dogs. And we also know that it is terribly easy to falsify litter information. I see what comes in from the pet shops at Smithaven every day, and it is heartbreaking. Pups that barely resemble the breed they are supposed to be, pups that definitely are not what they are supposed to be, and almost all filled with parasites, heart murmurs, respiratory problems, and worse. AKC is turning itself into a huge joke---all for the almighty $$$. And it gets better; they are now "licensing" the use of the AKC logo (also for $$$). On canine products, that might make sense. But they are putting it on men's and women' apparel, vacuum cleaners, lamps, bric-a-brac, etc. etc. Some of us are convinced that the staff and the Board have been drinking from the bowl of insanity! Without exception, delegates have been screaming on line! In my opinion, the arrogance and stupidity of this particular Board and new staff are overwhelming. And part of the problem, a big part, is that many staffers have absolutely no real background in the dog fancy--- just corporate thinking. And even some with a background seem to be totally derailed. All-breed clubs and parent clubs must weigh in with the Board asap-- and strongly. I have so urged the Beardie club, and am copying this to Pat for SCKC. Letters and e-mails should go to Jim Crowley for forwarding to the proper folks. Things are out of control. Do plan to act! ________________________________ Donna Malone Vice President, Responsible Animal Owners of Tennessee - a nonprofit organization promoting the humane treatment of animals and responsible animal ownership - Because Love is Not Enough! Email: _raotinc@aol.com_ [ July 12, 2004, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: Betsy Iole ]
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i really hope this bites the AKC in the ass!!! congrats to Barb for having GUTS to ask them what it was about.it's all about "The Benjamin's" with the AKC. buy your "good breeder" papers from them as long as they get their slice of the pie.But i really feel that the integrity of your dog begins with the breeder.i don't know about anyone else out there,but all i have in this world when you come down to it is my"word".that is more important to me than all the tea in China.
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Can't see anything good coming from such a referral service. It might cut down on petshop sales as with this method they can get them directly from the puppymill breeder.
Hopefully Barb's questions will get others to likewise question the AKC's sanity. |
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Here's a link to additional discussion of this service.
AKC On-line Breeder Classifieds Edited to add that one justification that AKC offers for doing this is that The Kennel Club has a similar on-line service. Interestingly, breeders advertising on The Kennel Club's site are expected to adhere to its General Code of Ethics, which includes the following. Quote:
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God, is there no bottom to the depths AKC has sunk to? Whenever I see these poor pet shop puppies with an 'AKC Registered' sign I want to scream and throttle the owners. As a person struggling through the heartbreak of having a dog with a genetic defect (glaucoma) I'm now so aware about these things.
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