pinehawk

well that time of the year is gearing up again.In Lynnville,IN.on March 26,27,28th.The AHBA WORLD HUNT this is the Super Bowl for the AHBA crowd!!!! there should be well over 100 Bassets competing for the title of World Champion in their respected classes.and if you can't make it to INDY,in Pennsylvania on the 27th and 28th of March is the FIRST AKC Trial of the Spring.Being put on by the SUSQUEHANNA BASSET HOUND CLUB.it is being held at the Beauitful Lebanon County Beagle Club in MT.Zion,PA.i here that the vice-president and field trial committee chairman of Susquehanna is one of the most knowledgeable people in the field basset scene today,go and ask for him, he will be more than HAPPY to show you how a formal field trial runs.this club is also supporting a chance for spay and nuter dogs to run in a NON-REGULAR Class.still waiting for approval on that.

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Anonymous

Billy give me any info you get on the spay class. I'll give 100% support for field trials if they offer this class. You know how I feel about this. Belinda.

Anonymous

Billy, is there a website where I can get some general information, e.g., location, driving directions, schedule, etc.? Or an email contact?

Depending on our schedules, we might be able to swing by and see it. We're not competitors; we just think it would be enjoyable to watch.

You can PM me if you wish, or post outright.

Thanks!

pinehawk

the AHBA Web Address is www.bassetnet.com and the AKC Trial Schedule can be found at the AKC Website at www.akc.org look under events or go to the BHCA website www.basset-bhca.org Belinda,will do!! we voted on this in the Fall at our meeting.it was voted on and approved by our FTAC Committee(if i remember correctily),now it's trying to see what class to run them in? Open Class i'm pushing for because they have to earn their points to run in the Champ class i feel.the draw back is the AKC right now does not allow this as you know,i will found out more this weekend.i would think that if the parent group(BHCA) would step up and help out with a petition to the AKC to allow this i would think it could happen!!!i really don't know who would contact the AKC i'm just guessing that's how it would be done. Billy

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Betsy Iole

FTAC voted to recommend allowing spayed and neutered bassets to compete in field trials??? My understanding is that FTAC has been the source of resistance to this idea, not BHCA or AKC. As I understand things, changes to the basset field trial regs aren't made unless and until FTAC signs off on them and passes them on to AKC for consideration? And that even if BHCA wanted to recommend changes to the regs, these changes wouldn't be considered by AKC in the absence of FTAC's approval, because the basset field trials are governed by FTAC's recommendations?

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pinehawk

i'll find out from Kay what's going on than!! at our fall meeting our club FTAC Rep. said it passed because she was against it,and was out voted.i'm e-mailing her right now!!! i'll be back!!!!!!

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Anonymous

I'm ignorant....what's FTAC? At Nationals it was a big deal about changing Field Trials to allow neutered Bassets to compete in field trials (a separate class is FINE with me). What can I do? I was under the assumption it was the AKC that was the final governing body, not the BHCA. HELP!! Belinda.

Betsy Iole

FTAC=Field Trial Advisory Committee. If it works like other advisory committees, FTAC makes its recommendations to AKC, and AKC considers them and has final say. In order for AKC to consider any recommendations, they must originate with FTAC. Don't know whether BHCA rubber stamps FTAC's recommendations, but BHCA *can't* do an end run around FTAC. (And if I'm FOS, I hope someone will set the record straight.)

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Mikey T

As much as I would like to tell Betsy she is FOS on this point she is correct. For many other breeds field trials allow spay and nuetered to compete and not always as a separate class. THe AKC really does not care but will go along with the FTAC. The hunting test was developed as an end around the FTAC by creating a field trial like event that is not a field trial so it is open to all bassets.


The Dachsund field trial has no 2-b in Standard Procedures exclusion of spayed and neutered dogs as is the case for both beagle and bassets. However Language in eligibility appears to be standard AKC lanquage for all field trials and Identical for Bassets, beagles and dachsunds. It does not allow for ILP's. Therefore even if spay and nuetered dogs were allowed, rescue dogs with ILP's would still not be allowed to compete unless addition changes were made.

Dean

FTAC is a part of BHCA and does not deal directly with AKC !! BHCA goes along with FTAC suggestions as long as it is convenient. If FTAC says the trial grounds at a potential site for the nationals are not adequate, BHCA says LIVE WITH IT!!! FTAC is an advisory group with no authority. BHCA has final say. AKC does not care about what dogs BHCA allows to enter a field trial. AKC does advertise and promote responsible pet owners to have dogs neutered, but will not suggest that BHCA allow neutered hounds to enter trials.