Pemphigus???

Lightning&Stomps · 09-02-2011, 05:24 PM

Anyone have any experience with pemhpigus foliacius (spelling is probably not correct)? Lightning had a sore on his nose that wasn't healing, so I had the vet check it out. He thinks it is pemphigus. He biopsied the spot today. I won't get the results until next week. I've read up on this condition, and it sounds like if you catch it early, and the cure doesn't kill the dog, the outlook is good. So I'm hoping that that's all it is and that Lightning reacts well to the meds.

People--I don't want to be alarmist, but it seems that sores on noses never turn out well. So if your dog has one, keep an eye on it and take your pooch to the vet if it doesn't clear up or if it recurs.

Lightning is still very woozy from the tranquilizer. Sadly my camera's battery is dead.

Mikey T · 09-07-2011, 05:43 PM

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the cure doesn't kill the dog, the outlook is good

topical or oral steriods are not typically Killers Oral steriods can have some nasty side effect but they ussual do not show up until prolonged use. But the mode of operation as with any autoimmune disease is to shut/slow down the immune system Wich does make the dog more prone to infections

Mikey T · 09-07-2011, 06:18 PM

FWIW Murrey (murraysmom) being treat for a similar nose problem but has be diagnosed wih Lupus .... For reading lupus can be a primary factor in Pemphigus??? whether that is the case or not in her case I don't know

Discoid Lupus- Murray's latest

Boomer's Mom · 09-07-2011, 08:20 PM

I lost my cat last December after a sore on his nose turned out to be something much worse. :-(

Happy, healing thoughts and drool for Lightning!

Boomer's Mom · 09-07-2011, 08:22 PM

I lost my cat last December after a sore on his nose turned out to be something much worse. :-(

Happy, healing thoughts and drool for Lightning!

Wworm · 09-09-2011, 02:16 AM

poor kitty, Boomah

were u a healing puppy for your Ma's kitty?

Lightning&Stomps · 09-10-2011, 06:48 PM

I got the results of the biopsy--it is lupus. So I'll touch base with Murray's mom to see how he's doing. I'm actually relieved it's not pemphigus, since the thought of having him on prednisone for long periods did not sound promising at his age. Luckily, I'd seen the post about Murray and was sure to ask the vet about the sore on his nose, so we caught it very early. Hurray for Basset.net!

jaleely · 09-10-2011, 06:52 PM

wow, lupis??? what's the cure?

Mikey T · 09-10-2011, 07:35 PM

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what's the cure?

no cure it is an auto immune disease but in this case sunlight uv ray make the nose sensitive to breaking down.

Discoid Lupus Erythematosus (DLE)

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Oftentimes the only treatment needed is to keep the dog out of a lot of sunlight, or at least out of sunlight during the middle of the day. Sunscreens without zinc oxide can help. Of course, dogs may want to lick the sunscreen off, so keep an eye on the dog when you use it. Use sunscreen made for dogs, because the sunscreens made for people contain ingredients (particularly zinc oxide) that are poisonous if ingested. Topical corticosteroids can be used if needed. Severe cases may require the use of oral corticosteroids, such as prednisone, or immunosuppressive medications such as azathioprine. Oral vitamin E and omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids can help, but several months of treatment are needed with those supplements before any effect can be seen.

Like SLE, treatment is life long, although DLE can have a long remission time during which sores don’t occur. Unlike SLE, DLE is not potentially fatal.

09-02-2011, 05:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lightning&Stomps Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Versailles, Ky. Posts: 1,200	Pemphigus??? Anyone have any experience with pemhpigus foliacius (spelling is probably not correct)? Lightning had a sore on his nose that wasn't healing, so I had the vet check it out. He thinks it is pemphigus. He biopsied the spot today. I won't get the results until next week. I've read up on this condition, and it sounds like if you catch it early, and the cure doesn't kill the dog, the outlook is good. So I'm hoping that that's all it is and that Lightning reacts well to the meds. People--I don't want to be alarmist, but it seems that sores on noses never turn out well. So if your dog has one, keep an eye on it and take your pooch to the vet if it doesn't clear up or if it recurs. Lightning is still very woozy from the tranquilizer. Sadly my camera's battery is dead.

09-07-2011, 08:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Boomer's Mom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,731	I lost my cat last December after a sore on his nose turned out to be something much worse. :-( Happy, healing thoughts and drool for Lightning! __________________ Boomer: Born 4/18/2010 Biscuit: Rescued 1/26/12, approx. 2 yo Chez Basset: Come for the kibble, stay for the belly rubs.

09-07-2011, 08:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Boomer's Mom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,731	I lost my cat last December after a sore on his nose turned out to be something much worse. :-( Happy, healing thoughts and drool for Lightning! __________________ Boomer: Born 4/18/2010 Biscuit: Rescued 1/26/12, approx. 2 yo Chez Basset: Come for the kibble, stay for the belly rubs.

09-09-2011, 02:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
Wworm Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Left Coast Posts: 1,966	poor kitty, Boomah were u a healing puppy for your Ma's kitty? __________________ see what the Worm is up to: http://bassetworm.blogspot.com/

09-10-2011, 06:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
jaleely Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 942	wow, lupis??? what's the cure? __________________ Baby Bowsah's Bwog

09-07-2011, 06:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mikey T Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: West Warrwick, RI Posts: 7,717	FWIW Murrey (murraysmom) being treat for a similar nose problem but has be diagnosed wih Lupus .... For reading lupus can be a primary factor in Pemphigus??? whether that is the case or not in her case I don't know Discoid Lupus- Murray's latest

09-10-2011, 06:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lightning&Stomps Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Versailles, Ky. Posts: 1,200	I got the results of the biopsy--it is lupus. So I'll touch base with Murray's mom to see how he's doing. I'm actually relieved it's not pemphigus, since the thought of having him on prednisone for long periods did not sound promising at his age. Luckily, I'd seen the post about Murray and was sure to ask the vet about the sore on his nose, so we caught it very early. Hurray for Basset.net!

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