sperm count in older males - Page 2

biscuit · 03-21-2004, 06:22 PM

Michael - I think the fact that you have a hunger to learn more about the care of the critters means that you'd end up being pretty good at it AND pretty happy doing it.

I don't know anything about the vet field or what all's available, but if it were me, I'd just start looking around to see what the possibilities are.

One thought that strikes me, though --- which may or may not be useful for you --- you've had the ability to acquire a lot of experience and knowledge because of your father and what you've been doing most of your life. You have certain kinds of knowledge that I bet you don't even know you have. And I'd wager you'd be able to be even more helpful in some kind of university extension services. Ag college, IOW.

Just a thought and maybe completely inappropriate, but it's what's popped in my mind everytime I've read your message.

Barbara Winters · 03-21-2004, 09:37 PM

US Department of Labor:

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Median hourly earnings of veterinary technologists and technicians were $22,950 in 2002. The middle 50 percent earned between $19,210 and $27,890. The bottom 10 percent earned less than $16,170, and the top 10 percent earned more than $33,750.

Certainly a rewarding profession and one I'm sure you'd be good at but you mentioned saving for the kids college education.

[ March 21, 2004, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: Barbara Winters ]

Betsy Iole · 03-21-2004, 09:41 PM

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Median hourly earnings of veterinary technologists and technicians were $22,950 in 2002

That's not $22,950/hr?

mwfulkerson · 03-21-2004, 11:56 PM

I know, my wife informed me of the low income of Vet techs.She gave me the (Lets be realistic speech)computers and medicine thats where the jobs of the future are needed.
I have a good business painting homes,I turn wealthy peoples homes into show houses.I have a talent for working with people and have been rewarded by a good income.
I have a dream that I will allways be involved with my hounds.I have a dream that I will be able to assist breeders in the artificial insemination process.I have a dream I will make my Father proud with Hounds of good health and stature.
I see great promise in the collection of semen from young studs to store for a later date.
Before my Aunt Mayme died she told me that she was afraid there was something that she should have done and did not do in her life.She laughed and said (I must have got old and forgot what it was....probably some crazy dream).

Barbara Winters · 03-22-2004, 07:13 AM

Betsy that's what I said also

But hey it's the Dept. of Labor so I figured maybe it meant they got paid by the hour rather than a salary. Anyway it's obviously a yearly income average.

For veterinarians:

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Median annual earnings of veterinarians were $63,090 in 2002. The middle 50 percent earned between $49,050 and $85,770. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $38,000, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $123,370.

According to a survey by the American Veterinary Medical Association, average starting salaries of 2002 veterinary medical college graduates varied by type of practice as follows:

All private clinical practices $46,339
Large animals, exclusively 48,303
Small animals, exclusively 48,178
Small animals, predominantly 46,582
Large animals, predominantly 45,087
Mixed animals 43,948
Equine (horses) 34,273

The average annual salary for veterinarians in the Federal Government in nonsupervisory, supervisory, and managerial positions was $72,208 in 2003.

biscuit · 03-22-2004, 08:26 AM

Michael,

Around here, any kind of medical and most computer stuff is down the tubes, and likely will be for a long time. Essentially, everyone decided medical and computers were the way to go --- so everyone went to school and got medical and computer training and now there's way too many of them. I don't think our situation here is unusual.

If your area is anything like this area, I think if you went for some kind of specialized RN, you'd likely be okay. I'd stay away from computers though!

Me, I want you to work for your local extension and be one of those people who puts together helpful handbooks and puts on animal fairs and figures out weird doggie problems.

tiny529 · 03-22-2004, 05:12 PM

Geez, around here medical is incredibly in demand... But that's because no one in their right mind would go into medicine in the Philadelphia area. All of our doctors are fleeing the state because of the high malpractice insurance.

I can get an appointment for my pooch or my birds in a few days, but I have to wait months myself. Think my vet would force me to take heartworm meds and shampoo with Frontline if I set up an appointment for myself with her?

biscuit · 03-22-2004, 06:40 PM

It depends on what you do, tiny. There's a demand here for specialized or experienced RN's but a concurrent refusal to pay for them ... meaning there are a few jobs for pretty specialized RNs but most of the RNs are already taken.

Most jobs here are for nurses' aides, techs, etc. because the hospitals, etc. don't want to pay for nurses. Not to mention, they're not too crazy about paying for the aides, etc. But there are now nurse's aides, etc., by the billions here.

This isn't a particular good state to end up in the hospital in, BTW.

:roll:

03-21-2004, 06:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
biscuit Senior Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: oklahoma Posts: 5,234	Re: sperm count in older males Michael - I think the fact that you have a hunger to learn more about the care of the critters means that you'd end up being pretty good at it AND pretty happy doing it. I don't know anything about the vet field or what all's available, but if it were me, I'd just start looking around to see what the possibilities are. One thought that strikes me, though --- which may or may not be useful for you --- you've had the ability to acquire a lot of experience and knowledge because of your father and what you've been doing most of your life. You have certain kinds of knowledge that I bet you don't even know you have. And I'd wager you'd be able to be even more helpful in some kind of university extension services. Ag college, IOW. Just a thought and maybe completely inappropriate, but it's what's popped in my mind everytime I've read your message.

03-21-2004, 11:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
mwfulkerson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: louisville,ky Posts: 654	Re: sperm count in older males I know, my wife informed me of the low income of Vet techs.She gave me the (Lets be realistic speech)computers and medicine thats where the jobs of the future are needed. I have a good business painting homes,I turn wealthy peoples homes into show houses.I have a talent for working with people and have been rewarded by a good income. I have a dream that I will allways be involved with my hounds.I have a dream that I will be able to assist breeders in the artificial insemination process.I have a dream I will make my Father proud with Hounds of good health and stature. I see great promise in the collection of semen from young studs to store for a later date. Before my Aunt Mayme died she told me that she was afraid there was something that she should have done and did not do in her life.She laughed and said (I must have got old and forgot what it was....probably some crazy dream).

03-22-2004, 08:26 AM	#16 (permalink)
biscuit Senior Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: oklahoma Posts: 5,234	Re: sperm count in older males Michael, Around here, any kind of medical and most computer stuff is down the tubes, and likely will be for a long time. Essentially, everyone decided medical and computers were the way to go --- so everyone went to school and got medical and computer training and now there's way too many of them. I don't think our situation here is unusual. If your area is anything like this area, I think if you went for some kind of specialized RN, you'd likely be okay. I'd stay away from computers though! Me, I want you to work for your local extension and be one of those people who puts together helpful handbooks and puts on animal fairs and figures out weird doggie problems.

03-22-2004, 05:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
tiny529 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: PA Posts: 205	Re: sperm count in older males Geez, around here medical is incredibly in demand... But that's because no one in their right mind would go into medicine in the Philadelphia area. All of our doctors are fleeing the state because of the high malpractice insurance. I can get an appointment for my pooch or my birds in a few days, but I have to wait months myself. Think my vet would force me to take heartworm meds and shampoo with Frontline if I set up an appointment for myself with her?

03-22-2004, 06:40 PM	#18 (permalink)
biscuit Senior Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: oklahoma Posts: 5,234	Re: sperm count in older males It depends on what you do, tiny. There's a demand here for specialized or experienced RN's but a concurrent refusal to pay for them ... meaning there are a few jobs for pretty specialized RNs but most of the RNs are already taken. Most jobs here are for nurses' aides, techs, etc. because the hospitals, etc. don't want to pay for nurses. Not to mention, they're not too crazy about paying for the aides, etc. But there are now nurse's aides, etc., by the billions here. This isn't a particular good state to end up in the hospital in, BTW. :roll:

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