HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr

PAmountaingirl · 06-03-2003, 11:01 PM

Hello! I am new to this site, so be patient with me...

We have 2 gorgeous bassets at home that we have bred, but my husband is in a panic about whether or not our female (Missie) is pregnant. Is there any sure way to tell very early after, as he likes to say, "the deed was done"?

I will take any information on anything about the whole subject you have and I thank you all greatly!

JoAnn

Missie & Sampson's "Mommy"

Barbara Winters · 06-03-2003, 11:55 PM

From Current Techniques in Breeding Practices:

Quote:

Early Pregancy Diagnosis

Detection of pregnancy can be accomplished through palpation of the enlarged uterus and fetal sacs, ultrasonography, or blood test. Manual palpation of the uterus can be performed accurately in cooperative bitches at 25-30 days of gestation. The uterus enlarges to accommodate the growing embryos, and each fluid filled embryonic sac can be felt as a chain of small round swellings. Beyond 30 days these individual sacs grow larger until they are in contact with the adjoining embryo and the individual sacs can no longer be detected. After 35 days, it is not recommended to palpate as it is possible to damage the fetus. If available, ultrasound examination has replaced palpation as the method of choice for early pregnancy detection. Ultrasound can detect embryonic sacs as early as 17-18 days, but is more accurate beginning about 20 days of gestation. A new laboratory test for canine pregnancy detects the hormone, Relaxin, which is only produced by pregnant bitches and is detectable with high accuracy after 25 days of gestation. The test is available with overnight results through most veterinary laboratories or as an in-house test with 10-minute results (Witness Relaxin, Synbiotics Corp.). Even the smallest litter can no longer go undetected.

PAmountaingirl · 06-04-2003, 03:33 PM

Thanks for the reply! It says it can be in house test for the Relaxin. Is this something I can get at the vets and do at home then? Do you know how much it might cost? Thanks!

JoAnn

Soundtrack · 06-04-2003, 04:34 PM

"In house" means at the vet's office, as opposed to being sent off to a lab. The cost will probably vary according to the vet and what part of the country you're in. Can't say for sure as I haven't used it.

PAmountaingirl · 06-04-2003, 05:31 PM

Thanks again!

Okay, now another question... (Sorry)

When you palpitate the uterus, where should I be palpitating exactly? (Please, I hope you don't think that I am the idiot I sound like... It's been a LONG time since I last bred a dog and don't remember what I had learned...)

We are so excited about the possibility of puppies we can't stand it and just want to know. But we also live in a very rural area and the vet I called only suggested an xray at 6 weeks... I don't think that it is safe for the fetuses...

Thanks again for everyone's help!

JoAnn

Soundtrack · 06-04-2003, 08:17 PM

Since I never did get the hang of palpating, I can't help you there....

Six weeks seems a bit early for x-rays. When I did it, it was usually within the last two weeks. I don't anymore. I read that dogs who were x-rayed before birth had higher than normal incedence of cancer when they got older.

[ June 04, 2003, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: Soundtrack ]

PAmountaingirl · 06-04-2003, 10:39 PM

Thank you! I will definitely keep that in mind, and just hope that she is pregnant!

Barbara Winters · 06-04-2003, 10:58 PM

My vets won't even do palpating for clients. It's often unreliable.

Ultrasounds I believe cost around $200.

I saw somewhere where the Relaxin test kit costs the vet around $66 for a kit of 5. How much it will cost you I guess depends on your vets mark-up.

Breeding a litter can be expensive. Around here it costs over a $1000 for an emergency C-section.

Menzie · 06-05-2003, 01:39 PM

Perhaps you more experienced breeders, like Soundtrack, could offer her some links to some good sites to read up on for what to look for, signs of problems, etc? Kind of a "What to Expect When your Bitch is Expecting" thing?

PAmountaingirl · 06-05-2003, 03:16 PM

Ultrasounds are not offered (that I know of) in our area. Atleast that's what the local vets have told me... I'll keep looking though. Actually, I "feel" that she is expecting, but I have no patience and just wish I knew right now!

Any links any of you have would be great!

Thanks!

JoAnn

06-03-2003, 11:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
PAmountaingirl Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Blossburg, PA Posts: 8	HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr Hello! I am new to this site, so be patient with me... We have 2 gorgeous bassets at home that we have bred, but my husband is in a panic about whether or not our female (Missie) is pregnant. Is there any sure way to tell very early after, as he likes to say, "the deed was done"? I will take any information on anything about the whole subject you have and I thank you all greatly! JoAnn Missie & Sampson's "Mommy"

06-04-2003, 03:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
PAmountaingirl Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Blossburg, PA Posts: 8	Re: HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr Thanks for the reply! It says it can be in house test for the Relaxin. Is this something I can get at the vets and do at home then? Do you know how much it might cost? Thanks! JoAnn

06-04-2003, 04:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Soundtrack Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,576	Re: HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr "In house" means at the vet's office, as opposed to being sent off to a lab. The cost will probably vary according to the vet and what part of the country you're in. Can't say for sure as I haven't used it. __________________ Rosie-Ch Soundtrack Cracklin' Rose CGN AGN RA Am RN TT Melody-Ch Soundtrack Unchained Melody TT Sailor-Ch Soundtrack Expedition Sailor RN TT Chili-Ch Soundtrack Spice Up Your Life Curry-Ch Soundtrack Canadian Brass Pepper-Ch Pennieslogon Living La Vida Loca CGN Vina-Ch Soundtrack Grand Illusion Leila-Ch Soundtrack Almost Paradise Deela-Ch Soundtrack Wink Of An Eye Hermione - Soundtrack Spellbound Eowyn - Soundtrack Rain Dance

06-04-2003, 05:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
PAmountaingirl Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Blossburg, PA Posts: 8	Re: HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr Thanks again! Okay, now another question... (Sorry) When you palpitate the uterus, where should I be palpitating exactly? (Please, I hope you don't think that I am the idiot I sound like... It's been a LONG time since I last bred a dog and don't remember what I had learned...) We are so excited about the possibility of puppies we can't stand it and just want to know. But we also live in a very rural area and the vet I called only suggested an xray at 6 weeks... I don't think that it is safe for the fetuses... Thanks again for everyone's help! JoAnn

06-04-2003, 08:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Soundtrack Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,576	Re: HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr Since I never did get the hang of palpating, I can't help you there.... Six weeks seems a bit early for x-rays. When I did it, it was usually within the last two weeks. I don't anymore. I read that dogs who were x-rayed before birth had higher than normal incedence of cancer when they got older. [ June 04, 2003, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: Soundtrack ] __________________ Rosie-Ch Soundtrack Cracklin' Rose CGN AGN RA Am RN TT Melody-Ch Soundtrack Unchained Melody TT Sailor-Ch Soundtrack Expedition Sailor RN TT Chili-Ch Soundtrack Spice Up Your Life Curry-Ch Soundtrack Canadian Brass Pepper-Ch Pennieslogon Living La Vida Loca CGN Vina-Ch Soundtrack Grand Illusion Leila-Ch Soundtrack Almost Paradise Deela-Ch Soundtrack Wink Of An Eye Hermione - Soundtrack Spellbound Eowyn - Soundtrack Rain Dance

06-04-2003, 10:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
PAmountaingirl Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Blossburg, PA Posts: 8	Re: HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr Thank you! I will definitely keep that in mind, and just hope that she is pregnant!

06-04-2003, 10:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Barbara Winters Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: New England Posts: 1,960	Re: HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr My vets won't even do palpating for clients. It's often unreliable. Ultrasounds I believe cost around $200. I saw somewhere where the Relaxin test kit costs the vet around $66 for a kit of 5. How much it will cost you I guess depends on your vets mark-up. Breeding a litter can be expensive. Around here it costs over a $1000 for an emergency C-section.

06-05-2003, 01:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
Menzie Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: central Arkansas Posts: 1,536	Re: HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr Perhaps you more experienced breeders, like Soundtrack, could offer her some links to some good sites to read up on for what to look for, signs of problems, etc? Kind of a "What to Expect When your Bitch is Expecting" thing? __________________ Menzie and Noel Pw. Annabelle (born 5/9/99, blind from glaucoma), Hector the Very Loud (rescue hound, gotcha day 11/03/2002), and Barney, a Soundtrack basset, born 7/8/03 Save a LIfe- Rescue and Adopt! www.ombr.org

06-05-2003, 03:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
PAmountaingirl Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Blossburg, PA Posts: 8	Re: HELP!!! I need all of your information on (possible) pr Ultrasounds are not offered (that I know of) in our area. Atleast that's what the local vets have told me... I'll keep looking though. Actually, I "feel" that she is expecting, but I have no patience and just wish I knew right now! Any links any of you have would be great! Thanks! JoAnn

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